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What will blackmagic revolutionize at this years NAB???
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[Wayne Carey] “You wish has been answered by Sony. Its called the XDCAM HD. Sony is announcing at NAB that they will have a high-def version of the XDCAM system in the very near future.”
XDCam is MPEG2. Be it SD or HD, it’s nowhere near uncompressed quality. XDCam is a good final delivery format, like for broadcasters. It’s hardly good enough for post.
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[Sean ONeil] ” XDCam is a good final delivery format, like for broadcasters.”
Huh? It is possibly a good aquisition format, for delivery, no.
Peter
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Yeah, XDCAM is MPEG2, but what digital format isn’t? DigiBeta has a form of MPEG commpression that Sony created solely for the format. I’m not too sure there is anything out there that can shoot in an uncompressed format. DigiBeta & HDCAM are extremely close but there is still some sort of compression involved. At what point do we need to say that’s enough? Meaning, I’m doing fishing and hunting shows for the Outdoor Channel, do I really need to shoot on DigiBeta if nobody can tell what I’m shoot with. I’d be hard pressed to say that anybody could look at the screen and tell me what digital format am I using (with the except of DV – we all know its a low resolution format) be it DigiBeta, XDCAM, DVCPRO50, IMX, whatever. What it all comes down to, is where will my programs air – DVD, broadcast television, cable, satelite, wherever. It all comes down to MONEY. How much can we spend to get the best quality we can afford.
Sorry for the rant, but I felt that needed to be said.
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Wayne Carey
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All I’m looking for is support for Sony’s XDCAM. MXF file format support. If I had that, I would need to digitize anymore but I still need to output to whatever.
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Wayne Carey
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This is what I think BMD will announce at this NAB2005.
A portable (Focus Firestor like)recorder/direct capture Hard drive with Firewire, ethernet, SDI and RS-422 ports. Is going to use JPEG, Avid DNxHD,DV50 and DV100 codecs.
This portable VTR/HD is going to revolutionize and improve the workflow for editing and distribution of uncompromised quality video to Television Stations.
Think about this. You edit Uncompressed video (using Decklink or other sdi card), output SDI to SDI on the VTR/HD, then take the VTR/HD to the TV Station and ingest the video to the play-back server. It is going to be a true VTR replacement.
Still today the most commonly used way to distribute content to tv stations is on Beta sp tapes. With a portable VTR/HD there is no need for big and expensive analog VTRs. If a tape dub is required, use the in-house VTRs at the client office.
“A bright idea for the genius at BMD”
Mel Feliciano
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Maybe its hard to tell the difference between Digibeta and DVCPRO 50 but A. you can tell the difference (the viewer cant but on a subconscious level they know when something is higher quality, and B. just because you cant tell the difference between those formats it doesnt mean we’ve reached the point where you can no longer improve the image quality.
We have a loooooong way to go before we get to the point where its as good or better than the highest quality Digital Still cameras. And believe me you can tell the difference between the highest quality Digital Still and DVCPRO 50.
It IS possible to record uncompressed, and it turns out its not so hard. Check out the Drake cam.
Emery
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If you search this board I believe there were several requests like yours. I asked for this once.
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I can easily tell the difference between DigiBeta and 50 mbit/sec IMX after four seasons of reality TV show that uses both. Thousands of hours of footage. There is a lot of DigiBeta codec bashing these days but in SD nothing comes close. Even Sony themselves realized that and introduces progressive DigiBeta camcorder this NAB. About 5 years late I’m afraid.
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[Mel Feliciano] “Think about this. You edit Uncompressed video (using Decklink or other sdi card), output SDI to SDI on the VTR/HD, then take the VTR/HD to the TV Station and ingest the video to the play-back server. It is going to be a true VTR replacement. “
Why would you want to output SDI when you can do a faster than realtime file transfer?????
Peter
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The funny thing is everyone discusses these things with this ridiculous assumption that the footage will not go past one generation. Imagine if everyone down the chain was re-encoding the video with lossy compression. It’d be terrible. This is why we’re professionals and we’re supposed to know this stuff. A producer or cameraman isn’t going to think about that. And the broadcaster or authoring person is going to use whatever he or she is provided. It’s up to the people in the middle to keep it at a pro level.
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