Using Blackmagic shuttle usb 3.0 with m11x problems

[Mike Squires]

Glad you figured it out, because I ran into the same issue yesterday, and finally figured it out last night.

Regarding capturing, you may need to use a NLE (non-linear editor) to capture, such as Premiere Pro. This will allow you to use different codecs to capture in, such as DVCProHD.

In Media Express, if your hard drives aren’t fast enough for uncompressed (which require around 200MB/s), you can try MJPEG, though obviously, the quality won’t be as good. If you want uncompressed, you’ll need a SSD hard drive (or two fast spindle-drives running in striped raid). Use the Black Magic Speed Test software to determine how fast your drives are.

[Louie Baffoe harris]

https://imgur.com/Bo9yS

this is my speeds could you give a quick rundown of how those nle works does it just it captures straight from the blackmagic?
Is this the same for streaming? i think i have to use xsplit right do you know how it works?

For now i want to use the lower quality till i buy an ssd i guess how do i set it to record a quality my hard drive can take?

Thanks for the help so far

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[Mike Squires]

I’m not sure about that streaming program, as I haven’t currently done any streaming.

Regarding your drive speeds, you can capture uncompressed SD (standard definition) just fine, but you can’t capture HD uncompressed. What you can do is select the MJPEG codec as your capture type (in Media Express), and your hard drive will do just fine. I believe MJPEG in HD is 22MB/s, so you’ll be fine. Make sure you have plenty of hdd (hard drive) space though. The files can get fairly large.

[Louie Baffoe harris]

hmm if im uploading to youtube for example whats the most reasonable capture i should use i got about 250gb to work with using the mjpeg im expecting to be using a gig a minute if i wanted to get like 100mb/s would the quality be really bad? for youtube at least. im trying to think of how practical it will be to upload stuff.

[Mike Squires]

You need to record it first, then edit it, and export it to a compressed format, like h.264. You then upload that final file to youtube.

Recording in uncompressed is the best, but it takes a lot of hdd space and hdd speed. Their are lossy codecs, like MJPEG, DVCProHD, ProRes, and DXnHD, but you have to have the software that uses those encoding methods. Media Express does allow MPJEG, but it’s the worst of the bunch.

You need something like Premiere Pro to work in. It’ll allow you to capture in multiple formats (like DVCProHD), and edit those same files. Once your done editing, you can then export the final video to something smaller in h.264, ready to upload to Youtube. (For instance, 30 minutes of HD captured using DVCProHD is about 30GB, and once edited, that same 30 minute video can be exported to H.264 with a 2-pass encode, resulting in a 5GB file).

[Louie Baffoe harris]

ah i see whats thats pretty reasonable i can work with that ill be using premier pro thankyou very much for the info, does premier pro let me do all video editing within the program like putting text and adding cutscenes in etc?

Im considering getting footage of roundabout 5hrs or so what would you recommend for that?

[Mike Squires]

Yes, Premiere Pro will do everything you want, and more than you’ve probably thought of.

If you’re just uploading to Youtube, you can probably get 5 hours into a 20GB file. That would be about 15Mbps encoding rate, which is more than enough for YouTube.

[Louie Baffoe harris]

awesome stuff got my hands on premiere pro now i got a few questions im looking to hook everything up via hdmi but obviously my laptops hdd speed doesnt support it.

So basically can i hook everything up via hdmi and record in uncompressed standard definition so i dont have massive files and my hard drive will be able to handle it using hdmi or do i have to change my blackmagic shuttle connection to my xbox from hdmi to component to do so??

Im going to attempt to record in premiere and see how it turns out, thanks for all the help so far too really grateful.

[Mike Squires]

Yes, you can capture in SD via HDMI, that should not be an issue.

Good luck, let us know if you run into any problems.

[Louie Baffoe harris]

ah thats awesome will be doing that untill i can upgrade to an ssd, my last question before i start testing, is there any input lag for my monitor with the shuttle currently set up as such

xbox>hdmi to shuttle> shuttle usb to laptop and shuttle hdmi to monitor

my only wonder is why as it seems other streamers/recorders go with this setup

https://8wayrun.com/attachments/untitled-1-jpg.9785/

here it seems they use a splitter/distro amp avoiding connecting the shuttle to the monitor all together
im just wondering if i should take this route?