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  • TS or TRS to connect devices

    Posted by Gami Rosd on September 26, 2016 at 9:08 pm

    What I understand is that TRS is the cable that has two black rings like this one TRS and it also called stereo.

    While TS is the cable that has one black rings like this one TS and it also called mono.

    These are the instructions in the manual for the 3 devices I want to connect

    DBX 286s

    DBX 131s

    DBX 166xs

    So according to the manual I should only use TRS, right?

    GR!

    Richard Crowley replied 9 years, 7 months ago 2 Members · 22 Replies
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  • Richard Crowley

    September 27, 2016 at 4:12 am

    TRS is NOT “stereo” except in the case of headphones.
    TRS can be (and typically is) MONO BALANCED line-level.
    Sometimes TRS is send/return in the case of inserts.

    If you want to tell us exactly what you want to connect to which, we can offer you expert advice.

    Remember that if you use a TRS cable with a TS unbalanced source and a TRS balanced destination, you will very probably end up with an open circuit and no audio.

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    Recording audio without metering and monitoring is exactly like framing and focusing without looking at the viewfinder.

  • Gami Rosd

    September 27, 2016 at 7:33 pm

    Thanks a lot for correcting my wrong information.
    Here is exactly what I want to do:

    I want to connect :

    – SM7B to 286s.

    – 286s to 131s.

    – 286s to 166xs.

    -166xs to Yamaha AG06.

    – Now to record I’ve two options to record :
    1) Yamaha to Zoom H5.
    2) Yamaha to iPod.

    GR!

  • Gami Rosd

    September 27, 2016 at 7:38 pm
  • Gami Rosd

    September 27, 2016 at 8:29 pm

    OK, I think I understand it right now.
    According to what you mentioned and for the above image, I think :
    1 – XLR cable between SM7B and dbx 286s.
    2 – Insert cable between dbx 286s and dbx 131s. (This one I am still confused about it).
    3 – TRS cable between dbx 286s & 166xs.
    4 – TRS cable between dbx 166xs & Yamaha AG06.
    5 – USB3 lighting cable to connect AG06 to iPod.
    Is this correct?

    GR!

  • Richard Crowley

    September 27, 2016 at 9:53 pm

    Yes, a common XLR-male to XLR-female “mic cable” to connect the SM7B microphone to the 286 mic preamp.

    Then you have two options for the 131 graphic EQ…
    1) You can use it as an “INSERT” out of the 286, through the 13,1 and then back into the 286. This would require a special insert cable. Example: Hosa STP-201
    2) Or, you can simply connect the output of the 286 to the input of the 131, and the output of the 131 to the 166.

    Yes, except for the insert cable, you would use an ordinary TRS to TRS cable for all the other connections.

    It does seem odd, however that you have all this gear but don’t seem to know how to use it. How did you happen to get all this and why do you think you need it?

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    Recording audio without metering and monitoring is exactly like framing and focusing without looking at the viewfinder.

  • Gami Rosd

    September 28, 2016 at 4:31 am

    – OK for SM7B and 286s.
    – So the INSERT of 286s will be the TRS and the input and output of 131s will be the TS mono.
    – Yes TRS for all.
    – Yes I am new and do not know everything as I’ve just goggled for what professionals are using and I’ve bought what I’ve found and now I am learning (Thanks to you 🙂 )

    GR!

  • Richard Crowley

    September 28, 2016 at 4:58 am

    Remember that just because other people are using something doesn’t mean that YOU need it. And it doesn’t even mean that THEY need it or are getting benefit from it. It is puzzling that anyone would buy any of that without confirming first that they actually NEED it.????

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    Recording audio without metering and monitoring is exactly like framing and focusing without looking at the viewfinder.

  • Gami Rosd

    September 28, 2016 at 7:33 am

    I could not agree more with what you said as it makes sense. But my problem was that I do not have any music store in my town and only the internet was my source and no way to try before I buy, so I just listened to podcasts and voice overs by professional and what gear they are recommended then goggled for a way to connect it and adjust it, so here I am, but I wish if there were local stores that are having professional consultants.
    This how experts like you helping the newbies like myself 🙂

    GR!

  • Richard Crowley

    September 28, 2016 at 8:42 am

    Recommend plugging your SM7B directly into the Yamaha AG06. You can probably send all the DBX gear back for a refund. For that matter, is that big old SM7B really appropriate for what you are doing (and WHERE)? Remember that a very large portion of the “sound” is a function of the space you are in. A pile of gear taller than you can’t compensate for poor acoustics, etc.

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    Recording audio without metering and monitoring is exactly like framing and focusing without looking at the viewfinder.

  • Gami Rosd

    September 28, 2016 at 11:15 am

    The only reason for using the Shure SM7B is that it does not pick any background noise but it does requires a LOT of gain and this was the reason to use 286s.
    I never thought to use the Microphone and USB interface directly only.
    I will try it and feed you back.

    GR!

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