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  • Titles looking terrible on Vimeo but fine elsewhere…what’s going on?

    Posted by Al Bergstein on December 27, 2013 at 6:16 pm

    Hi folks. I just completed a project in Vegas 12. I output the footage first in SD and HD from Vegas, all looked well on local disk. Then output the higher res way, using Avid’s codec, and then ran it through Handbrake. It looked much noticeably better, especially the SD version, but the HD was better too. I sent it to Vimeo, and now the titles are all low res. I don’t quite know what is going on here. You can see what I’m talking about if you simply look at the first 30 seconds of the video. I’ve tried letting the video load, but that doesn’t help, much. There is a distinct softness to the fonts, even in HD. It seemed to be specifically in the way that Vimeo was processing what I gave it. I have many other videos on Vimeo, and have not experienced this before, so I’m worried that there is something in Vegas’ font handling that is going wrong.

    I tried doing a search on the forum, but didn’t really see something like this in the questions, but did see other problems.
    Does someone know what is happening here?

    https://vimeo.com/81054977

    Al

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    Steve Rhoden replied 12 years, 4 months ago 3 Members · 4 Replies
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  • Norman Black

    December 27, 2013 at 7:34 pm

    [Al Bergstein] “so I’m worried that there is something in Vegas’ font handling that is going wrong. “

    Whatever file you generated from Vegas is what you look at to evaluate what Vegas did. If that is good, then Vegas is out of the picture.

    If the file you send to Vimeo looks good, but their result is not, then the issue is with the re-encoding that the online Video servers do and their bitrates are much lower than you probably encoded.

  • Steve Rhoden

    December 27, 2013 at 8:13 pm

    is what you look at to evaluate what Vegas did. If that is good,
    then Vegas is out of the picture

    That is precisely correct Norman, i have to keep reminding users over
    and over that if their video looks good after rendering, but looks
    poor wherever they upload it…. Its not Vegas’s fault, each uploading
    site encodes your content differently etc.

    Steve Rhoden
    (Cow Leader)
    Film Editor & Compositor.
    Filmex Creative Media.
    https://www.facebook.com/FilmexCreativeMedia
    1-876-461-9019

  • Al Bergstein

    December 27, 2013 at 9:34 pm

    Yeah, I suspected as much but I have not enountered that on Vimeo, and have encoded to their specs for hd. The funny thing is, my output from Vegas titling seems to be more prone to this on Vimeo than from adobe Pr. I encode both to the same standard and notice it more on vegas projects. I’ll try and point up some examples. I just wanted to make sure there wasn’t something unusual about Vegas titlingthat I didn’t understand.

    For example: This video did not have problems with the titling. https://vimeo.com/mountainstone/ptmscmsnn
    neither did this one
    https://vimeo.com/68974934
    Neither did this one.
    https://vimeo.com/34117278

    So it is confusing about what is at work in this…
    Al

  • Steve Rhoden

    December 29, 2013 at 3:33 pm

    Not sure what to tell you, Unsure what these sites do in
    their re-encoding process.

    Steve Rhoden
    (Cow Leader)
    Film Editor & Compositor.
    Filmex Creative Media.
    https://www.facebook.com/FilmexCreativeMedia
    1-876-461-9019

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