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  • Tiling, Macroblocking, & Pixelation after 9 min H.264 Mp4 Encoding

    Posted by Greg Ondera on March 6, 2015 at 6:02 am

    I am stumped with some home video quality (it’s pretty bad) footage I was handed to do a simple edit on.

    I have finished the edit in FCP7 and created a ProRes timeline and exported it in ProRes to try to get it to behave. I then take the footage into Episode Pro for an H.264 Mp4 and it comes out with macroblocking and pixelation at around 9 minutes every time, no matter how large I change the Kbps.

    I have tried Noise filtration but the image looses definition, goes soft. I thought of trying to get rid of the noisiness of the original by using Neat Video, but haven’t done that.

    I have other footage that is doing the same thing but came from a Panasonic HDX-900. This footage came from some consumer camcorder. It’s footage of a talking head being interviewed. I had to take up the exposure, it was on the dark side. In doing so it has a washed look, but hey, I didn’t shoot it.

    I should also mention this happens when I transcode to QuickTime as well, at the same place for the rest of the program. I do not see this in the FCP timeline.

    Can anyone tell me what I can do to keep from getting pixelation that starts at 9 minutes into the encode? How does one obviate this kind of pixelation behavior in the first place? What causes this? Here’s what I am using:

    Mac OS 10.6.8
    Quad-Core Intel Xeon
    3.2 Ghz
    2 GB Memory
    Final Cut Pro 7
    Episode Pro 5.3.2
    H.264 Mp4
    VBR using Peak Rate, Average 2000, Peak 2400
    5 reference frames
    3 B-frames
    High CABAC 2-pass using deblocking filter
    Black and White Restore 15 for Black
    640×360

    Greg Ondera
    http://www.Plexus.tv
    http://www.SurgeonToday.org

    Greg Ondera replied 11 years, 3 months ago 2 Members · 4 Replies
  • 4 Replies
  • Craig Seeman

    March 6, 2015 at 1:49 pm

    Perhaps whatever is happening at that point is bit starved. While the data rate is reasonably high, your peak isn’t much higher than your average making it very nearly a CBR encode. Try setting the peak at 4000kbps.

  • Greg Ondera

    March 6, 2015 at 4:15 pm

    Well, that didn’t seem to work. It is still pixelating at the same location for the rest of the shot. Here is what I used:

    Episode Pro 5.3.2
    H.264 MOV this time
    1280×720
    VBR using Peak Rate
    Average 5000 – Peak 10,000

    I am wondering about another thing that is going on too, which is that I cannot scroll through these encoded files either. I have to play them from the start to observe them. I have gotten this same report from some clients too.

    Any help is greatly appreciated.

    Greg Ondera
    http://www.Plexus.tv
    http://www.SurgeonToday.org

  • Craig Seeman

    March 6, 2015 at 4:28 pm

    Sounds like you need to put in a proper key frame rate. Include both natural and forced key frames with forced being no more than 5 seconds apart (150 frames).

  • Greg Ondera

    March 8, 2015 at 12:39 am

    Thanks tremendously. That worked. Also it seems to allow easy scrolling of the Mp4 version of the program, which it didn’t before.

    Is there any good material to read that could tell me how this works under the hood? I want to know how to think about it.

    Greg Ondera
    http://www.Plexus.tv
    http://www.SurgeonToday.org

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