This Is Interesting

[Mads Nybo jørgensen]

Hey David,

No, this is another David trying his best to make you believe that the two products in his graphic are identical – they are not. One is “Acrobat only” and the other is “Acrobat DC”.

One is sold as seen with no upgrades.

The other is an eco-system of cloud services including apps that works on IOS and Android + a number of innovative features for e-signing and storing documents.

One should keep in mind that the full Adobe CC package comes with Adobe DC as standard – so don’t rush out to get it if you’re already on CC.

However, as Acrobat continues to be a stand alone product with no need to become an integral part of a design/video/creative workflow. And that many of the corporate clients, law-firms, banks and other financial institutions using it, will never for security reasons allow any third-party software to store their products in another cloud, it makes sense to continue offer it under a permanent license.

Lightroom 6, Photoshop Elements 13 & Adobe Premiere Elements 13 can also be purchased outright. So there isn’t really a sudden revolution going on at Adobe.

Obviously, there is nothing wrong with continuing to request Adobe CC to also be produced as a permanent license – However, if it slows down development and takes away the improved functionality between the various apps, then I can’t see the benefit for anyone who is currently an Adobe customer.

All the Best
Mads

@madsvid, London, UK
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[Morten]

Perpetual license or Cloud based, Adobe will continue to force outputs of their video applications up to NAB and IBC. This is why we continue to receive buggy updates, and why their argument for independant Cloud delivery does not hold water.

– No Parking Production –

Adobe CC2014, 3 x MacPro, 3 x MbP, Ethernet File Server w. Areca ThunderRaid 8

[Mads Nybo jørgensen]

[Morten Ranmar] “Adobe will continue to force outputs of their video applications up to NAB and IBC. This is why we continue to receive buggy updates, and why their argument for independant Cloud delivery does not hold water.”

Morten, I’m not sure how you can connect the timing of what Adobe demonstrated at NAB, with what they released 2 months past NAB? And neither has anything to do with cloud or not cloud delivery.

Adobe is spending more money on R&D, which is evidently if you compare the amount of code in CC2014 v CC2015 – and is also evidently in how fast the initial fixes started to appear after the main release of some the CC apps.

BTW: Would you rather have that Adobe told you nothing and did no marketing? Or would you rather wait for Christmas to come around and Santa drop you a CD-Rom through the chimney? There is two major shows in the calendar for showing tools to the video, broadcast and film production community – I would be deeply concerned if Adobe showed up with nothing, or like some; don’t show at all.

In any case the latest version of CC is currently stable on my system whilst I’m hacking my way through a 3 camera production.

All the Best
Mads

@madsvid, London, UK
Check out my other hangouts:
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https://mads-thinkingoutloud.blogspot.co.uk

[Morten]

of course Adobe should innovate as well as keep us informed – but as they announce the new versions up to these events again and again, it forces them to whip their development team to deliver shortly after – and that is why we continue to see buggy software (and this does not only apply to Adobe).

I have personally stayed of the 2015 update until now, and am enjoying those great color features.

– No Parking Production –

Adobe CC2014, 3 x MacPro, 3 x MbP, Ethernet File Server w. Areca ThunderRaid 8

[Bill Davis]

[Mads Nybo Jørgensen] “There is two major shows in the calendar for showing tools to the video, broadcast and film production community – I would be deeply concerned if Adobe showed up with nothing, or like some; don’t show at all.”

Software development and delivery has changed 180 degrees over the past 10 years. It’s ALL on-line now which changes the game from “It has to be perfect before we press the disks” to “Lets try to get it right, but we can’t efficiently test for all the possible flaws until the software gets out to the customer base – so we’ll fix the details as we get feedback.”

That’s as true for Apple as it is of Adobe.

And it has NOTHING to do with whether the software is sold via subscription or one-pay.

The cost of distributing software revision has been driven comparatively close to zero. (support staff training and manual revision et al, excepted) Trade show participation (or the lack thereof) change that not at all.

Know someone who teaches video editing in elementary school, high school or college? Tell them to check out http://www.StartEditingNow.com – video editing curriculum complete with licensed practice content.

[Andrew Kimery]

[Bill Davis] “Software development and delivery has changed 180 degrees over the past 10 years. It’s ALL on-line now which changes the game from “It has to be perfect before we press the disks” to “Lets try to get it right, but we can’t efficiently test for all the possible flaws until the software gets out to the customer base – so we’ll fix the details as we get feedback.” “

Internet delivery giveth, and Internet delivery taketh away. 😉

My memory might be rusty but I think the last two generations of video game consoles (PS3, Xbox 360, Wii, PS4, Xbox One and Wii U) all had day 1 patches waiting for users as soon as they got their brand new consoles home from the store. Around Christmas time I remember reading some articles suggesting that if you bought a gadget for someone (be it a tablet or a video game console) that you open it, download any patches and then wrap it so that when the gift is opened it’s ready to go.

[Tim Wilson]

[Andrew Kimery] “all had day 1 patches waiting for users as soon as they got their brand new consoles home from the store.”

Also true for my television, Blu-ray player, and network-connected home theater receiver. 🙂

Flip on the power button for the first time, and a screen comes up that says, “There is new software available for your device,” with buttons that say do it now or remind me later. Ignoring it not an option, and the intent was unmistakably, “Do it now, before you do anything else.”

[Gary Huff]

[Tim Wilson] “Also true for my television, Blu-ray player, and network-connected home theater receiver. :-)”

Yup.

[Andrew Kimery]

[Tim Wilson] ”
Also true for my television, Blu-ray player, and network-connected home theater receiver. :-)”

Yeah, I still remember it feeling odd the first time I downloaded an update for my TV. Welcome to the future!

[Tim Wilson]

[Andrew Kimery] “I still remember it feeling odd the first time I downloaded an update for my TV. Welcome to the future!”

The future will arrive when we download a virus to our TV.