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  • This ever happen to you: Edit to tape wants to render even though you already did.

    Posted by Dan Riley on March 2, 2007 at 2:33 am

    I’ve done hundreds of edit to tapes.
    I render completely my sequence, video and audio.
    Sequence output to DigiBeta. Always a piece of cake.
    Today however, it wants to write video, to the tune of HOURS.
    This is from a sequence which is completely rendered, video and audio.
    Uncompressed 10 bit.

    I always render everything before edit to tape.
    I then drag the sequence to the edit to tape window and
    assemble (usually but sometime insert). Never had this happen.

    Does anyone have an idea?

    What I’m doing overnight is, I trashed all render files for the project
    and I’m re rendering the sequence I need to output tomorrow morning.
    I’m hoping there was some kind of error where FCP didn’t see all the
    render files. Anyway, that’s the only thing I could think of.

    Dan

    Sam Zimman replied 19 years, 2 months ago 4 Members · 8 Replies
  • 8 Replies
  • Chris Poisson

    March 2, 2007 at 3:46 am

    Dan,

    More than likely what you did was the right answer. Probably some bad render files.

  • Michael Alberts

    March 2, 2007 at 5:45 am

    Dan,
    One thing you should check is if you have any clips with the visibility turned off. You might even have an entire layer with the clip visibility turned off. If this is the case FCP will want to RE-RENDER everywhere the visibility is turned off. This is when you see the second render window, during ETT.
    You’ll render you entire timeline. Go into ETT mode and FCP will want to re-render everywhere the visibility is turned off. Makes no sense, but repeatable every time.

    Michael Alberts
    Ambidextrous Productions, Inc.

  • Dan Riley

    March 2, 2007 at 7:05 am

    I look into that tomorrow. I’m pretty sure I had all the tracks with visibility on.

    I know how to see visibility on sequence tracks, but how do you see if
    clips have it turned on or off? You mentioned clips as well as tracks.

    dr

  • Dan Riley

    March 2, 2007 at 3:52 pm

    Overnite render did not change anything. Edit to tape still wants to write to video (re render)
    for hours. What is going on? This is a real pain in the butt.
    If anyone has any other ideas, please speak up.

    Dan

  • Dan Riley

    March 2, 2007 at 3:56 pm

    Oh, wait a minute. I re-read Michael’s post and he said “visibility”.
    I thought I read “selected”. OK, yes there is a track with visibility off
    (an 800# I don’t need). I’ll try pulling the track out and creating a new
    sequence. Hope this works.

    Dan

  • Michael Alberts

    March 2, 2007 at 4:38 pm

    Dan,
    That’s exactly what I’m talking about. You can turn an individual clip’s visibility off by hitting Cntrl-B or right click the select visibility. If that clip is the entire length of the sequence FCP seems to want to render it during ETT, even if the visibility if OFF. What you generally have to do in that case is make a dupe sequence and delete the clip entirely.
    I’m certain that is your problem.

    Michael Alberts
    Ambidextrous Productions, Inc.

  • Dan Riley

    March 2, 2007 at 6:36 pm

    well, you certainly wouldn’t stop there if we were talking about
    all my problems . . 🙂

    I’m trying your idea now which I’m betting will solve this.
    The thing with this sequence is,
    it’s a half hour show with lots of interviews with Boris chroma key filters
    which take FOREVER to render. It will be 6 hours or more. (g5 dual 2.5 gig).
    Today’s output was for my music mix, so I just dropped the
    sequence that wouldn’t ETT into another sequence and added a timecode burn
    and played in real time out to digibeta. So that will work
    for today. He can set his offset in protools to match the timecode of the
    window burn which matches the OMF. Meanwhile back at my office
    FCP is rendering the duplicated sequence without the track that was
    turned off. Hopefully this new sequence will then ETT with no trouble.
    We shall see.

    Thanks Michael,
    Dan

  • Sam Zimman

    March 5, 2007 at 4:13 pm

    if i’m on a deadline and have the storage i export a selfcontained QT movie and then reimport it and do the layoff from there. it’s usually much quicker than waiting for a long render during ETT.

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