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Thermal Effect?
Posted by Paul Harb on May 5, 2009 at 10:56 pmIm working on a scene that has a POV looking through what are supposed to be thermal goggles and I was hoping there was a plug in that would do this so I dont have to actually track the characters in the scene. Anyone got any leads?
thks, Paul
Paul Harb-Producer/Director
Wrong Beach Multimedia
Dual 3.2 GHz Quad/10.5.5/8GIG RAM/FCP 6.0.4/QT 7.5.5Paul Harb replied 17 years ago 6 Members · 12 Replies -
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Mark Suszko
May 6, 2009 at 12:09 amRiver Rock studios has a free plug-in part of their day for night set.
https://www.Riverrockstudios.com/riverrock/pages/dayfornight.html
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Paul Harb
May 6, 2009 at 12:15 amYa, those are night vision and infra red….which just looks black and white? I need the thermal imaging look, like from Predator.
Paul
Paul Harb-Producer/Director
Wrong Beach Multimedia
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Mark Suszko
May 6, 2009 at 1:25 amWell it’s been a while since I saw it but I think in Predator what they mostly did was not “real” thermal either, just a lot of solarization and keying. Maybe try some of those free solarization and invert filters in Motion, stacked in blend mode? Or you might try a Nattress plug-in. Only costs you some time to try it.
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Rafael Amador
May 6, 2009 at 1:47 amYou have to use some kind of “Displacement map” (Distort> Displace).
That is the kind of thing don’t to try to do in FC if you have AE, Motion or whatever.
If you dig you may find few tutorials about how to make the air moving like in the desert with he heat
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Mark Suszko
May 6, 2009 at 2:35 amSorry Raphael, but an understandable mistake… in the predator movie, the displacement map trick is the secret behind his invisibility cloak effect, but what Paul here is asking about is from other parts of the film where you are looking thru the POV of inside the predator’s helmet, which augments and amplified his vision by processing light in different wavelengths and one of those displays used in many of the POV shots is a fake thermographic image in false colors, showing brighter and lighters color spectra for higher heat.
I am sure I’ve stumbled over several filter settings in FCP while goofing around that can do this, especially if they were stacked together. Basically you’re keying off luma info and inverting colors. Maybe adding some solarization. For a shot in the film where you see a scorpion outlined in bright white against a body or whatever, an actual thermograph would be boring and hard to see vs. background since the scorpion is the same temp as the air, so they are really playing games with luma keys and colorizing the results… but to the audience it “reads” correctly.
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Rafael Amador
May 6, 2009 at 4:03 amYou right Mark.
The picture reflect the temperature of the object.
With the filters that you mention can work.
With a bit of roto you can get something really good.
And I have to watch Predator again:-)
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David Roth weiss
May 6, 2009 at 4:25 am[Rafael Amador] “And I have to watch Predator again:-) “
I watched it again Saturday night. One of my favorite movies. It hasn’t aged at all, in fact, it’s gotten better with age.
I especially like Arnie’s delivery of the line, “stick around,” right after he impales a guerilla fighter with a huge jagged hunting knife, pegging him to the wall in perpetuity.
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Rafael Amador
May 6, 2009 at 4:34 amGo right now to rent it.
rafa[David Roth Weiss] ” It hasn’t aged at all, in fact, it’s gotten better with age. “
This doesn’t happens to me. If I print my self to DVD?
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Jeremy Doyle
May 6, 2009 at 2:15 pmThis is a part of the description for Red giant softwares ToonIt 2 product
“Heat Vision – New in v2
The new Heat Vision plug-in simulates infrared camera footage to easily mimic the look from the Predator movies.”I’d look into that
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Peter Wiggins
May 6, 2009 at 4:17 pm
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