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  • Thermal Effect?

    Posted by Paul Harb on May 5, 2009 at 10:56 pm

    Im working on a scene that has a POV looking through what are supposed to be thermal goggles and I was hoping there was a plug in that would do this so I dont have to actually track the characters in the scene. Anyone got any leads?

    thks, Paul

    Paul Harb-Producer/Director
    Wrong Beach Multimedia
    Dual 3.2 GHz Quad/10.5.5/8GIG RAM/FCP 6.0.4/QT 7.5.5

    Paul Harb replied 17 years ago 6 Members · 12 Replies
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  • Mark Suszko

    May 6, 2009 at 12:09 am

    River Rock studios has a free plug-in part of their day for night set.

    https://www.Riverrockstudios.com/riverrock/pages/dayfornight.html

  • Paul Harb

    May 6, 2009 at 12:15 am

    Ya, those are night vision and infra red….which just looks black and white? I need the thermal imaging look, like from Predator.

    Paul

    Paul Harb-Producer/Director
    Wrong Beach Multimedia
    Dual 3.2 GHz Quad/10.5.5/8GIG RAM/FCP 6.0.4/QT 7.5.5

  • Mark Suszko

    May 6, 2009 at 1:25 am

    Well it’s been a while since I saw it but I think in Predator what they mostly did was not “real” thermal either, just a lot of solarization and keying. Maybe try some of those free solarization and invert filters in Motion, stacked in blend mode? Or you might try a Nattress plug-in. Only costs you some time to try it.

  • Rafael Amador

    May 6, 2009 at 1:47 am

    You have to use some kind of “Displacement map” (Distort> Displace).
    That is the kind of thing don’t to try to do in FC if you have AE, Motion or whatever.
    If you dig you may find few tutorials about how to make the air moving like in the desert with he heat
    Rafael

    http://www.nagavideo.com

  • Mark Suszko

    May 6, 2009 at 2:35 am

    Sorry Raphael, but an understandable mistake… in the predator movie, the displacement map trick is the secret behind his invisibility cloak effect, but what Paul here is asking about is from other parts of the film where you are looking thru the POV of inside the predator’s helmet, which augments and amplified his vision by processing light in different wavelengths and one of those displays used in many of the POV shots is a fake thermographic image in false colors, showing brighter and lighters color spectra for higher heat.

    I am sure I’ve stumbled over several filter settings in FCP while goofing around that can do this, especially if they were stacked together. Basically you’re keying off luma info and inverting colors. Maybe adding some solarization. For a shot in the film where you see a scorpion outlined in bright white against a body or whatever, an actual thermograph would be boring and hard to see vs. background since the scorpion is the same temp as the air, so they are really playing games with luma keys and colorizing the results… but to the audience it “reads” correctly.

  • Rafael Amador

    May 6, 2009 at 4:03 am

    You right Mark.
    The picture reflect the temperature of the object.
    With the filters that you mention can work.
    With a bit of roto you can get something really good.
    And I have to watch Predator again:-)
    Rafael

    http://www.nagavideo.com

  • David Roth weiss

    May 6, 2009 at 4:25 am

    [Rafael Amador] “And I have to watch Predator again:-) “

    I watched it again Saturday night. One of my favorite movies. It hasn’t aged at all, in fact, it’s gotten better with age.

    I especially like Arnie’s delivery of the line, “stick around,” right after he impales a guerilla fighter with a huge jagged hunting knife, pegging him to the wall in perpetuity.

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles

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  • Rafael Amador

    May 6, 2009 at 4:34 am

    Go right now to rent it.

    rafa[David Roth Weiss] ” It hasn’t aged at all, in fact, it’s gotten better with age. “
    This doesn’t happens to me. If I print my self to DVD?
    rafa

    http://www.nagavideo.com

  • Jeremy Doyle

    May 6, 2009 at 2:15 pm

    This is a part of the description for Red giant softwares ToonIt 2 product

    “Heat Vision – New in v2
    The new Heat Vision plug-in simulates infrared camera footage to easily mimic the look from the Predator movies.”

    I’d look into that

  • Peter Wiggins

    May 6, 2009 at 4:17 pm

    Doh!

    Forgot about YouTube

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q47tJY_ocPs

    Peter

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