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The magnetic timeline sucks! ;-)
Lillian Young replied 12 years, 6 months ago 14 Members · 52 Replies
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Steve Connor
February 15, 2013 at 5:05 pm[Aindreas Gallagher] “yeah but, in certain ways, some people might consider that there are some trade offs there. But, you know, as long as its ludicrously easy to move big glued together lumps around all day?”
Do you do many narrative projects Aindreas?
Steve Connor
‘It’s just my opinion, with an occasional fact thrown in for good measure” -
Bill Davis
February 15, 2013 at 7:12 pm[Aindreas Gallagher] “yeah but, in certain ways, some people might consider that there are some trade offs there. But, you know, as long as its ludicrously easy to move big glued together lumps around all day?”
Yeah, cause “glued lumps” are so inherently evil.
Just don’t say it so loud, because the grown ups are listening.
You know folks like….
The electronics industry – built largely on modular assembly? (Must be Idiots!)
(We all know that hand wiring each and every element in a complex construction completely from scratch – is the only way REAL assemblers should ever do things.)Or the auto industry – with all those silly “just in time” and assembly line philosophies that changed the entire world by driving more efficiency into a hand assembled world? Nothing to see here, move along.
Yeah, REAL editors need to HAND assemble everything from discrete parts!
May I suggest a slogan or two for your bold new retro initiative?
Perhaps
“It was good enough for 2004, so its dammed well good enough for today!
Or my personal favorite…
“Hurry and go BACK – cuz that way, there be MONSTERS…” (I think it has a ring to it!)
Let us know how your initiative to fight the evil of “glued lumps” catches on.
(Run away! Run away!)And I’m sure you’ll find all sorts of industries excited to take your ideas arguing that the ONLY way to approach video is to become your kind of radical fundamentalist railing against the evils of modular assembly!
Cuz THATs what’s wrong with the world of editing today. The evil of doing a repetitive piece of your editing work once – and easily moving, sorting and/or re-using the result over and over again as needed.
What a stupid idea.
Run with that, dude. It’s a sure winner.
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Aindreas Gallagher
February 15, 2013 at 7:25 pmNot narrative, nay – that is thine own illustrious bag – Did do a half hour ryder cup doco there based around an extended JM Olazabal IV and a ton of archive just before christmas? god that was a good ryder cup – we’re all friends but – SUCK IT AMERICA.
I did not long for everything to be glued together, you will note. I personally rather like a live delicate timeline. I find it keeps me on the proverbial toes. Basically I can’t imagine where it is good for me that things just default into pre-pack large lego pods.
I’m actually fine with doing the occasional jenga – I think it tends to remind you of the pieces.
https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics
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Steve Connor
February 15, 2013 at 7:50 pm[Aindreas Gallagher] “I did not long for everything to be glued together, you will note. I personally rather like a live delicate timeline. I find it keeps me on the proverbial toes. Basically I can’t imagine where it is good for me that things just default into pre-pack large lego pods.”
As the majority of my work IS narrative I have to say I like the “pods”. I find it useful that when I stick Broll or graphics etc over my narrative it stays together, it gives me an easier way of experimenting with narrative changes, especially later as the edit evolves.
Steve Connor
‘It’s just my opinion, with an occasional fact thrown in for good measure” -
Aindreas Gallagher
February 15, 2013 at 8:09 pmman Bill, I’m used to you beating down an awful lot harder on verbose Andy fallacies than that!
So – I’ll only say that in this argument case – the semi transistor that needs to be automated into a chip is, say, a glancing look, or a left over reaction shot that turns out great in a different context later, and the capacitor is a semi-forgotten aerial shot three layers down below alternates – a live unconnected timeline tends to lead to them being periodically re-unearthed. Half the time its the chaff that saves me.
Connections predispose decisions. if we start automating the process of assembly, if we start seeing the nature of a timeline, which is by nature a deeply personally memory association process, where you are continuously re-evaluating relationships in time, as a car/chip assembly plant where things get bolted together and put on the pulley belt for vimeo,
then… there really might be a wee bit of a problem on the horizon.As ever: all my ire is to Apple.
https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics
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Steve Connor
February 15, 2013 at 8:28 pm[Aindreas Gallagher] “if we start automating the process of assembly, if we start seeing the nature of a timeline, which is by nature a deeply personally memory association process, where you are continuously re-evaluating relationships in time, as a car/chip assembly plant where things get bolted together and put on the pulley belt for vimeo,
then… there really might be a wee bit of a problem on the horizon.”The thing that annoys me most about the criticism of FCPX is that the magnetic timeline is somehow a hinderance to creativity in editing because it’s simply not true.
Also Aindreas, did you know that your https://www.ogallchoir.net address doesn’t work any more?
Steve Connor
‘It’s just my opinion, with an occasional fact thrown in for good measure”
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Aindreas Gallagher
February 15, 2013 at 8:52 pm[Steve Connor] “Also Aindreas, did you know that your https://www.ogallchoir.net address doesn’t work any more?”
ech – enom – thanks though, I *will* by christ do it tomorrow. I actually got the second iOS reminder, sent by previous me, this afternoon.
mental few days editing. sure all the really current stuff is on the vimeo anyway.
I really really really need to sort my portfolio.that said – please by all means do be annoyed Steve – that timeline is a cognitive hinderance. You can get over it maybe, but its there.
https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics
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Steve Connor
February 15, 2013 at 9:04 pm[Aindreas Gallagher] ” that timeline is a cognitive hinderance”
Add the words “for me” at the start of that sentence and I have no argument. Otherwise it’s just a subjective opinion.
BTW are you going to BVE next week?
Steve Connor
‘It’s just my opinion, with an occasional fact thrown in for good measure” -
Aindreas Gallagher
February 15, 2013 at 9:15 pmduly: for me.
Sure indeed on BVE, if… this edit lets me out into the world…: I will turn up in Rab C Nesbitt costume with an ‘FCPX is bollocks’ t-shirt. that should do it.
you be about?https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics
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Steve Connor
February 15, 2013 at 10:57 pm[Aindreas Gallagher] “you be about?”
Certainly will !
Steve Connor
‘It’s just my opinion, with an occasional fact thrown in for good measure”
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