The magnetic timeline sucks! ;-)

[Bill Davis]

[Aindreas Gallagher] “that timeline is a cognitive hinderance.”

In mostly the same sense that MATH is a cognitive hinderance to those who don’t have much familiarity with it.

Know someone who teaches video editing in elementary school, high school or college? Tell them to check out http://www.StartEditingNow.com – video editing curriculum complete with licensed practice content.

[Franz Bieberkopf]

Charlie,

One might ask why there is no discussion (or video example) of clip groups in PPro …

Franz.

[Charlie Austin]

[Franz Bieberkopf] “Charlie,

One might ask why there is no discussion (or video example) of clip groups in PPro …

Franz.
“

Sure there is, in my post. It’s a nice feature.

[Charlie Austin] “I also grouped all the “pod” clips in Pr before I started”

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[Franz Bieberkopf]

Charlie,

Were any of the other clips grouped?

Franz.

[Franz Bieberkopf]

Charlie et al,

… also, now that I review this, there’s this question:

I am assuming from this demonstration (and others) that X always prioritizes picture when “collapsing” the timeline – ie it will shuffle sound in order to abut picture elements (and never the other way round, prioritizing audio). Is this true?

Franz.

[Charlie Austin]

[Franz Bieberkopf] “Charlie,

Were any of the other clips grouped?

Franz.”

Nope. Just to see what would happen I just did the same move, but grouped the “pods” on either side of the point where I dropped the first group. (I was lining up the video clip to the end of a clip FWIW) It had the same result, split all the clips, (including the video clip I was dropping the group adjacent to) that were aligned with the head of the leftmost clip in the group, and cleared everything out of the space taken up by the moved group. Grouping the other clips made no difference…

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[Charlie Austin]

[Franz Bieberkopf] “… also, now that I review this, there’s this question:

I am assuming from this demonstration (and others) that X always prioritizes picture when “collapsing” the timeline – ie it will shuffle sound in order to abut picture elements (and never the other way round, prioritizing audio). Is this true?”

This is true, but, assuming you’ve got audio properly connected, which is trivial, it won’t screw up sync. The exception would be a music bed with a bunch of cut points, which would get moved and maybe you don’t want it to. However, if you just throw your MX in a compound clip and make sure its pinned to the head or tail of your sequence it won’t move. That works with anything you don’t want to move when doing something like I did…

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[Franz Bieberkopf]

Charlie,

I’m also interested why you chose to use the trim tools to place the clip groups (rather than clicking and dragging).

Also, if I’m reading it correctly, your last trimming action actually breaks the group (or slips sync) (… can’t read it but it might be labelled “Bug xxxx 12” clip). Is that true? If so, not good.

Franz.

[Franz Bieberkopf]

[Charlie Austin] “it won’t screw up sync”

Charlie,

Yes, I understand; this wasn’t really why I was asking.

I’m sort of fascinated (astonished?) that “video priority, always” as a design choice wasn’t more apparent before (and hasn’t been discussed anywhere).

(If I’m understanding you correctly, then compounding sort of constructs an implied slug video track, even if there is no video track in the compound.)

Fascinating.

Franz.

[Charlie Austin]

[Franz Bieberkopf] “Charlie,

I’m also interested why you chose to use the trim tools to place the clip groups (rather than clicking and dragging).

Also, if I’m reading it correctly, your last trimming action actually breaks the group (or slips sync) (… can’t read it but it might be labelled “Bug xxxx 12″ clip). Is that true? If so, not good.”

No real reason, I’ve just been messing with Pr, which is why I did this in the first place. It would have been a little quicker to just drag everything into place, but it also would have either overwritten some tracks and/or required some track tetris to clear the way. Again, this wasn’t at all scientific. 😉

And yeah, you’re right about that last clip breaking sync. Didn’t even notice. I put it down to my trim tool carelessness. 🙂

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