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The magnetic timeline sucks! ;-)
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Personally I am finding that the magnetic timeline causes more hassle than it stops to be honest. The other day I was trying to shift clips along to the right, and what used to be TTTT then drag to the right became an exercise in cutting up gap clips and re situating connection points and in the end, after I did move it, my audio was out of sync with my video. Ok, I may not be as we’ll versed as many in the black arts of X, but intuitive this experience was not.
Overall my perception of the magnetic timeline is ‘meh!’. Seems to have traded one set of issues for a load of different ones. Just means I have to learn a who new bunch of workarounds from before just for the sake of Apple believing they reinvented the wheel.
I am wedded to X now, and sure it can work as an editing program, but to be absolutely honest I do not see it ever taking off in the same way as 7 did. It’s just too contrary for the sake of being cool… Hoxton Sqaure syndrome… And way too fiddly at the moment for the majority to care about. I don’t care about it and as I said I am wedded to it. x is something I am having to suffer as a means to a ends with regards to making my living. Shame really, but there you go.
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[Charlie Austin] “All linked in time, but also individual… I dunno… pods if you will. “
yep, just heaving around large glued together pods, or clods even. thats the stuff.
[Charlie Austin] “the X timeline makes manipulating the “pods” so much faster and easier it’s almost ludicrous. “
yeah but, in certain ways, some people might consider that there are some trade offs there. But, you know, as long as its ludicrously easy to move big glued together lumps around all day?
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[Andy Field] “Magnetic timeline: solution in search of a problem”
Clip collisions are the problem. A whole fiddly raft of workarounds involving various combinations of trim modes have been created over the years in other NLE’s to avoid them. The X timeline absolutely negates that problem, freeing you to just worry about the cut without concurrently solving a geometric puzzle.
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[Julian Bowman] “Personally I am finding that the magnetic timeline causes more hassle than it stops to be honest. The other day I was trying to shift clips along to the right, and what used to be TTTT then drag to the right became an exercise in cutting up gap clips and re situating connection points and in the end, after I did move it, my audio was out of sync with my video. Ok, I may not be as we’ll versed as many in the black arts of X, but intuitive this experience was not.”
Not sure exactly what you’re doing, but just rolling the tail of the last clip before the chunk you’re trying to ripple back a couple frames to create a bit of gap, select the right side of that gap, and ripple everything to the right as much as you need. Or select whatever you want to move and use the position tool to drag them, and all their connected clips, wherever you want. It’s different than 7 and behaves more like MC in this regard. Which, honestly, isn’t a bad thing… 🙂
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I dunno.
The problems it’s mostly solved for me are A) having FUN editing again after so many years. and B) getting my work done faster so I’m spending less time locked away in my studio.
Perhaps in a strict sense they were less “problems” and more “happiness sinkholes?”
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I have my complaints about the MT as much as the next editor, but I do find it very helpful when working on projects at the stage where the script is still be fleshed out. It’s the fastest tool for moving around soundbites and getting a feel for the flow of a piece.
I see from the demo how it’s easier to use, but frankly I’m not sure I would use it a lot at the stage that this timeline was at. The reason is that this only works well because the connected clips are actually linked to the right clips on the primary storyline. When that isn’t the case you often have to go through the extra step of making sure the connection points are connected to the correct clip. If not, you have to change where they are connected. Not a big deal, but something you really have to take mental note of.
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Agreed. You need to spend a little time up front to be able to save later.
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[Oliver Peters] “If not, you have to change where they are connected. Not a big deal, but something you really have to take mental note of.”
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[Keith Koby] “Agreed. You need to spend a little time up front to be able to save later.”
Oh absolutely. Honestly, this wasn’t posted for any reason other than me being curious about what it would look like doing the same thing in 2 different NLE’s. I’m sure there are things you could do where Pr or MC would be faster than X. I just found it interesting. 🙂
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[Aindreas Gallagher] “[Charlie Austin] “All linked in time, but also individual… I dunno… pods if you will. ”
yep, just heaving around large glued together pods, or clods even. thats the stuff.
[Charlie Austin] “the X timeline makes manipulating the “pods” so much faster and easier it’s almost ludicrous. ”
yeah but, in certain ways, some people might consider that there are some trade offs there. But, you know, as long as its ludicrously easy to move big glued together lumps around all day?”
Of course there are trade offs, there are trade off’s between any different tools. And as has been repeated ad infinitum, use the tool that suits you. For what I do, moving “big glued together lumps around” is a fairly common thing, so I like that it’s ludicrously easy to do so. I find it helpful having a MC style rippling timeline combined with a FCP 7/Pr style free form timeline. You don’t.
I mean, I miss a lot about FCP 7 too, but that ship has sailed. I’m enjoying cutting with something that doesn’t just work essentially the same as everything else has for the last 20 years. And I’m actually enjoying re-familiarizing myself with other NLE’s. Old, crusty, NLE’s 😉 lol
In the long run, if all one can cut on is one software package, they’re probably doomed in this biz. Anyway, I’ve seen the future of our craft. It’s called Vine. We’re all doomed. 🙂
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[Charlie Austin] “Anyway, I’ve seen the future of our craft. It’s called Vine. We’re all doomed. :-)”
🙂
Indeed – Vine will have us all.
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