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The invisible layer is almost useless !
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Heehhh ??!
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I always find it interesting how spending mere hours with an application gives one complete insight over all existing workflows in every possible situation with a feature they’ve never seen before.
I’ve never had the opportunity to even consider the invisible clip feature’s potential uses yet (and I’ve had the app for a bit) …I’ll reserve judgement.
TimK,
Kolb Productions,
Creative Cow Host,
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[Tim Kolb] “I’ve never had the opportunity to even consider the invisible clip feature’s potential uses yet (and I’ve had the app for a bit) …I’ll reserve judgement.”
It is only useless if you want to use it to slice bread, inflate your car tyres or use it as an Avid-style effects apply track. It does not have a lot of use for me, but it is 100% useful for what it does – ie it is useless at doing what it was not designed to do!
Mark
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I’ve never had the opportunity to even consider the invisible clip feature’s potential uses yet
.- Imagine being able to apply an effect over a large number of clips (ie color correction) in just one step. Imagine to crop several clips at the same time. That’s what you can do with the Avid’s implementation of invisible layer (and you CAN’T with Adobe’s one). You can even put several effects on their “invisible layer” (It’s called FILLER)
“It does not have a lot of use for me, but it is 100% useful for what it does.”
.- Which is… …What????
– “ie it is useless at doing what it was not designed to do!”
.- What it was designed to do? I’m trying to find out, maybe you can tell me.
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“I always find it interesting how spending mere hours with an application gives one complete insight over all existing workflows”
.- It’s only one (1) specific feature this thread is all about. I think this is pointed clearly enough.
I don’t know about any other feature or workflow I haven’ tried, and is not in the interest of this very thread, maybe another.
‘in every possible situation”
.- I tried THIS feature in every possible situation. It does almost nothing of any use.
And, worse, you have to render it, even without whatever you can put on it.
You don’t have to render Avid’s filler.
Is not only useless, you even have to render it.
“with a feature they’ve never seen before.”
.-Maybe you’ve never seen something like it but that’s not my case.
I’ve seen and used extensively this kinda feature.
Well, a working one and in other apps, of course.
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In PremPro 1.5 I had an invisible layer in effect. I made it in AE from a Black layer with 0% opacity and rendered it out as a Lossless Alpha (avi). – 30 seconds Duration
This was available for me to use in any project I wanted to import it to.
Its original purpose was to carry any effects that would work with it eg a lens flare or a shape or especially DVdate. I used the Invisible avi on its own track and could turn it on and off at will while editing. It saved rendering time and meant I did not overload the clip with effects during the edit. I also found I could use it to copy the effects from it clip back to aanother clip(in the ECW window)when required at the end of the edit. I could also split screen with it and make quick RT adjustments. In fact it has uses I still not have discovered or utilised yet.
I have not loaded PremPro 2 yet but I am sure I will find the feature useful for something….
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Its original purpose was to carry any effects that would work with it eg a lens flare or a shape or especially DVdate. I used the Invisible avi on its own track and could turn it on and off at will while editing. It saved rendering time and meant I did not overload the clip with effects during the edit. I also found I could use it to copy the effects from it clip back to aanother clip(in the ECW window)when required at the end of the edit. I could also split screen with it and make quick RT adjustments. In fact it has uses I still not have discovered or utilised yet.
.-I alreay said it, is not 100% worthless, only 98.7%
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“In PremPro 1.5 I had an invisible layer in effect. I made it in AE from a Black layer with 0% opacity and rendered it out as a Lossless Alpha (avi). – 30 seconds Duration”
.-I also have a collection of Alpha layers, masks, blacks, Bars tones, etc. The only difference between the ones I have and the “invisible layer” feature is that you generate it within premiere instead of import it.
Another old trick to generate an “invisible layer”: A title track with no titles on it.
Big deal!!
I expected more from a new feature. The invisible layer is not even worthy to be called a “new feature”.
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“Another old trick to generate an “invisible layer”: A title track with no titles on it.”
.- I just checked out that this old (OOOLD!!) trick it’s still working perfectly.
A Title layer with no “titles” is EXACTLY the same as the “Amazing” Invisible Video Layer, no differences at all.
Not the slightest difference. Just a stupid Alpha layer.
What a shame!!
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