The Honda Ad Timeline

[Charlie Austin]

[Richard Herd] “Since a notion of being rational was brought up, what you’re saying is a beg the question fallacy. You posit the following: “I can read it because I can read it.” ;)”

heh, that pretty much sums up the argument on both sides of this wildly off topic discussion. The solution is to be multi-lingual. 😉

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[Bill Davis]

[Charlie Austin] “heh, that pretty much sums up the argument on both sides of this wildly off topic discussion. The solution is to be multi-lingual. ;-)”

Just for heaven’s sake, do NOT make it Chinese.

BTW, Tom just PM’d me that he’s back to the grindstone and so won’t have time to come out and play for a while. He did note that if somebody here has additional workflow related questions. feel free to send them my way and I’ll and I’ll gladly pass them along.

Now back to your regularly scheduled programming.

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[Tony West]

[Charlie Austin] “this wildly off topic discussion”

Indeed

It certainly got sidetrack with IMHO a distraction argument.

The argument obviously had no bearing on this man’s ability to rock the heck out of that video.

But I don’t think anybody could really make the case that doing that exact video in a track based NLE would be faster and easier.

If that case can be made, go ahead and put the timeline in here like he did his, and we can compare the approaches.

[Jeremy Garchow]

I also think you have to add the compound clip workflow in there as well.

That is pretty unique to X. Other NLEs have nesting type of conventions, but the entire workflow of the compound clips and Roles is rather X specific (and fairly “easy” to do).

[James Ewart]

I must be thick. I do not understand the two timelines. What is the purpose of the timeline below? When it plays you see the upper timeline. What is the lower timeline for?

[Charlie Austin]

[James Ewart] “I must be thick. I do not understand the two timelines. What is the purpose of the timeline below? When it plays you see the upper timeline. What is the lower timeline for?

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Have you watched the spot? Link is somewhere in this silly thread… anyway, there are 2 films,cut simultaneously that play at the same time, one day and happy, one night and dark. In the final product a viewer can then switch between the two while watching. All the shots are “matching, and the same length. If the editor disables the top bits, the bottom plays and vice versa. Read the fop.co writeup for details.

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[James Ewart]

So we are talking split screen?

Okay.

I guess he would have found life simpler still with a second magnetic Primary Storyline unless he cut the fist then lifted it out of the Primary and then cut the other?

it’s funny isn’t it. Doesn’t take much but suddenly from nobody but me using FCPX in the UK and almost having to mutter it under one’s breath, suddenly everybody has realised that this is software that works very nicely.

The more I work with complex audio with multiple “tracks” the more I enjoy having my audio ext to my video no matter where it is in the timeline. It’s so liberating.

[Charlie Austin]

[James Ewart] “So we are talking split screen?”

Not at all, you really need to see this, on a desktop, not mobil. Then it’ll make sense. 🙂

https://www.youtube.com/user/HondaVideo

[James Ewart] “it’s funny isn’t it. Doesn’t take much but suddenly from nobody but me using FCPX in the UK and almost having to mutter it under one’s breath, suddenly everybody has realised that this is software that works very nicely.”

Not here in L.A., at least in the little trailer cutting world of which I’m a part. It’s kind of odd.

[James Ewart] “he more I work with complex audio with multiple “tracks” the more I enjoy having my audio ext to my video no matter where it is in the timeline. It’s so liberating.
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Yep. All NLE’s have their strengths, but there’s nothing that compares to cutting in X.Once you get used to it it’s hard to work in the rigid world of tracks. 🙂

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[Neil Goodman]

[Andy Neil] “n overall seconds, minutes, hours, and button presses, you are spending a TON more time in Avid keeping an “at a glance” timeline than you do to create and view an “at a glance” timeline in X.
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how long does it take to patch an audio track in Avid? If your smart, there mapped to a keyboard. In my case if it want to insert/overwrite to A10 i hit shift 0, and then b or v.

Its a fraction of a second operation thats hard wired in my brain and that hardly leads to a ton of added time.

That said, it doesnt take time in X either assigning the roles. Literally the same.

If your adding tons of time to an edit for track patching/ role-ing then the software isnt the issue at hand.

either way, this is a really great spot, I couldnt care less what it was cut in.

[Charlie Austin]

[Neil Goodman] “Its a fraction of a second operation thats hard wired in my brain and that hardly leads to a ton of added time.”

But you have to do it every time you cut something in! ahahahah!!!! uh, sorry. 🙂 kidding!

This really is a silly conversation huh? If you’re proficient in any NLE, you’re gonna be fast. Your preference is your preference. I actually think the people who are most resistant to FCP X are current and former FCP 7 users. It’s really odd.

[Neil Goodman] “either way, this is a really great spot, I couldnt care less what it was cut in.”

Yep, totally agree. And i want that player script thingy! I can’t wait for it to start showing up on Blu-Rays, alternate endings, scenes etc. Maybe even in theaters! What fun it would be to cut 2 alternate but matching features simultaneously! Yikes! 😉

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~”It is a poor craftsman who blames his tools.”~
~”The function you just attempted is not yet implemented”~