The Honda Ad Timeline

[Andrew Kimery]

[Bill Davis] ” So theres at least a chance he might drop by to answer more detailed questions. “

Thanks for the link, Bill. And you are hinting that we should be on our best behavior? 😉

[Shane Ross]

Sorry, but that looks like a very messy timeline. I can see audio layered like that, but video? Or is layering video like that the new hip thing to do? Yes, that sounded snarky, and a little snark is in there. But I am curious as to why video stair stepped like that is fine for people.

Shane
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[Bill Davis]

[Andrew Kimery] “Thanks for the link, Bill. And you are hinting that we should be on our best behavior? ;)”

Not at all. The dude edits high level stuff for major brands in the back of a van in his socks. I gotta think that the sturm and drang he’s witnessed on a set where they’re burning tens of thousands of bucks an hour makes any random bitchiness he could possibly encounter here pale in comparison.

Normal participant behavior isn’t just OK, it’s expected. That’s what makes this forum tick!

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[Bill Davis]

Shane, did you read his workflow post?

He’s essentially got to start his cutting on-set the instant the director calls CUT and then is facing ridiculous deadlines, so he developed an almost “all compound clip” X workflow to allow him to get to work fast, using the video assist tap files – then replace them with the ProRes Versions when they come in. Every video clip on that storyline is sorta “live” in that it links to a browser clip that has to be swapped out as the rushes are processed.

So the simple “two track” master to represent the interactive threads, plus lots of audio sweetening seems like a workflow driven by the project’s requirements.

Plus the magnetic storyline lets him “bundle” shots from the day and night threads into a magnetically related pair – so when he shifts or trims a scene – the relationship between the day and night tracks are maintained. That seems like it would be a HUGE help on a project like this.

PLUS, since all those bunches of SFX and hits are magnetically connected to the underlying video files on the Primary – shifting a scene in the edit order (including BOTH angles) is just a matter of click dragging a SINGLE clip in the primary – and all the work he’s done with attached audio sweetening follows along magnetically in perfect sync.

It’s leveraging how X works from the start, to make revising your edits so much easier later.

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[Andy Neil]

[Shane Ross] “Sorry, but that looks like a very messy timeline. I can see audio layered like that, but video?”

I don’t think you’re looking at it right, Shane. That IS audio layered on both the top and bottom. There are only two layers of video. The primary (night scene) and the connected day time story below.

The audio above the primary relates to the primary storyline video where the audio below the storyline relates to the connected video clips.

He designed it that way so that he could quickly lasso all the related audio and video tracks and use the enable/disable shortcut (V) to view the other storyline instantly as you might in the finished product.

Andy

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[Charlie Austin]

[Andy Neil] “I don’t think you’re looking at it right, Shane. That IS audio layered on both the top and bottom.”

Exactly. And being able to do that is really handy. Makes managing timelines with boatloads of audio very easy and greatly reduces the need to scroll up and down when working.

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[Bill Davis]

[Shane Ross] “I can see audio layered like that, but video? Or is layering video like that the new hip thing to do? “

Oh, I see now, you thought the upper stuff was video? Nope. Everything green is audio. X doesn’t restrict audio to “below the line” like most NLEs.

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[Charlie Austin]

[Bill Davis] “a larger timeline screenshot”

… Patiently awaiting the inevitable (and wrong) “sequence pancake” comparison.. 😉

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[Oliver Peters]

Just curious. Is there a way to force an audio connected clip to edit in place above the storyline without a manual move from underneath to above?

– Oliver

Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
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[Charlie Austin]

[Oliver Peters] “Just curious. Is there a way to force an audio connected clip to edit in place above the storyline without a manual move from underneath to above?
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Not that I’m aware of. That seems to be related to his (and others) request to group Roles. Set a “Role A” area and everything with that role would stick there. I think (hope) we’ll see something like that eventually.

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