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  • Simon Ubsdell

    November 5, 2014 at 5:42 pm

    [James Ewart] “Post deleted Simon but assigning it a role is a good thought.”

    It would have been an ideal way to work here – a lot easier than lassoing and solo-ing, I’d have thought.

    Simon Ubsdell
    tokyo-uk.com

  • Andrew Kimery

    November 5, 2014 at 9:45 pm

    [Bill Davis] “This is what actually has me scared a bit. Yes, I’m an X unabashed fan. But what really worries me is that in staying so “conservative” – the US production industry might be screwing itself in the long run. “

    I don’t understand what you are worried about, Bill. Does the country that has the most FCP X users by the end of 2020 win a prize or something?

    I can think of a lot of ways the industry in the U.S. is screwing things up (runaway productions, MBAs instead of creatives running studios/networks, poor labor practices, ‘Hollywood accounting’, poorly thought out reactions to piracy, copy-cat programing decisions, never ending flood of sequels, prequels, remakes and trendy adaptations, etc.,.) but choice of NLE? Really?

  • Herb Sevush

    November 5, 2014 at 9:47 pm

    [Richard Herd] “Not exactly, and we are talking about audio. The tracks do not tell us bussing and sending, or other DAW type stuff like compression, EQ, reverb. The track is basically an in and out point.”

    I’m working in Ppro and I always have the track mixer open next to the timeline. At one glance I see not only the placement of clips within each track, along with the name of the track, but also each tracks bussing assignment, EFX, levels – not sure what you are talking about.

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions
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    nothin’ attached to nothin’
    “Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf

  • Herb Sevush

    November 5, 2014 at 10:15 pm

    [Bill Davis] ” when an X editor highlights a role in the timeline index (which, granted, as a nonX editor is a concept that won’t mean anything to you) all the assets assigned that role literally highlight in the storyline. It presents the editor with an instantaneous way to visually separate the clips in that role.”

    of course if you have 4 different “roles” and you highlight one of them you are still left with a timeline that is 75% unintelligible. And you have to constantly keep hitting that index feature whenever you need a refresher on what is what, audio wise. With tracks you hit nothing and have 100% intelligibility. As has been stated repeatedly, color coded roles would address this issue, but since people have been asking for it to no avail for almost 3 years I don’t see why anyone expects to see it anytime soon.

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions
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    nothin’ attached to nothin’
    “Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf

  • Herb Sevush

    November 5, 2014 at 10:25 pm

    [Charlie Austin] ” If you’re proficient in any NLE, you’re gonna be fast. Your preference is your preference. I actually think the people who are most resistant to FCP X are current and former FCP 7 users. It’s really odd.”

    Agree to the former. As for the latter, human nature being what it is, resentment against the EOLing of Legacy by many of it’s practitioners has a long half-life. Not saying it’s smart, not saying it’s right, just saying it’s very human.

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions
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    nothin’ attached to nothin’
    “Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf

  • Herb Sevush

    November 5, 2014 at 10:34 pm

    [Bill Davis] “Yet here in the US, the “hurt” over Apple’s behavior nearly 4 years ago is inescapable. EVERY single post I read in any US thread about FCP X this past week – including the ones talking about how much it’s improved post 10.1 – has felt compelled to ALSO revisit the “botched launch meme” again, To mention some form of Apple “screwing over” all the planets editors.”

    And yet you have insisted that the release was handled perfectly. So how perfect was it being handled when it has caused “irrational” resentment that has dragged on for almost 4 years. Even I think the anti-X phenomena has dragged on too long – yet here it still is. Must be the fault of all them dumb LA/NY editors.

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions
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    nothin’ attached to nothin’
    “Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf

  • Charlie Austin

    November 5, 2014 at 10:36 pm

    [Herb Sevush] “Not saying it’s smart, not saying it’s right, just saying it’s very human.”

    Absolutely true. At this point though, it seems kind of irrational to me.

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    ~ My FCPX Babbling blog ~
    ~”It is a poor craftsman who blames his tools.”~
    ~”The function you just attempted is not yet implemented”~

  • Herb Sevush

    November 5, 2014 at 10:46 pm

    [Charlie Austin] “At this point though, it seems kind of irrational to me.”

    If humanity were rational would weekends only last 2 days?

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions
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    nothin’ attached to nothin’
    “Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf

  • Charlie Austin

    November 5, 2014 at 10:48 pm

    [Herb Sevush] “[Charlie Austin] “At this point though, it seems kind of irrational to me.”

    If humanity were rational would weekends only last 2 days?”

    lol, true… 🙂

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    ~ My FCPX Babbling blog ~
    ~”It is a poor craftsman who blames his tools.”~
    ~”The function you just attempted is not yet implemented”~

  • Andrew Kimery

    November 5, 2014 at 10:53 pm

    [Herb Sevush] “As for the latter, human nature being what it is, resentment against the EOLing of Legacy by many of it’s practitioners has a long half-life. Not saying it’s smart, not saying it’s right, just saying it’s very human.”

    I’m going to add to this and say that many of the FCP Legend users I personally knew did not know any other NLE so they reacted to the EOL by Apple as a direct attack on their ability to make a living (many of them were also die hard Apple fans which made the ‘betrayal’ all that more upsetting). Not logical, but as Herb said, very human.

    When Legend got EOL’d I had been using it almost exclusively for 5 years but I knew Avid (and had worked with Premiere a bit in ’00/’01) so I at least had another NLE to fall back on as well as the experience of going through the process of learning a new NLE. The FCP-only friends I had were staring ‘square one’ in the face for the first time as professionals and had no idea how to react. I think them taking it personally could make it less likely for them to pick up X. Or it could just be that Avid (and to a lesser extent PPro) are much more viable alternatives in Los Angeles than X so it’s a pragmatic choice, not an emotional one.

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