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Jeremy Garchow
April 19, 2012 at 7:54 pm[Herb Sevush] “I want PCIe 3 type speeds “
Just curious, but what are you pushing through a PCIe3 pipe when editing 720p60 ProRes?
1 stream of 720p60 ProRes is 20ish MB/sec.
Let’s underestimate and say a Thunderbolt raid runs @ 450MB/sec read in raid 5
That’s 20+ streams of multicam @ 720p60.
[Herb Sevush] “However, if someone can show me that I can get the speed I want with all the peripherals I need with Tbolt Imacs I will definitely give it a look. “
I would call up a VAR.
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David Roth weiss
April 19, 2012 at 8:10 pm[Andrew Kimery] “I can only imagine how a colorist who climbed the ladder and ‘earned’ the right to fly a DaVinci must feel right now seeing it included as a freebie w/a $3k camera. Has to be a kick to the nuts on some level.”
At NAB some were looking at it that way, others as a great opportunity to get a cool camera and a free copy of $995 Resolve.
It’s been characterized as “the race to the bottom,” and as you say, it seems no one is safe from taking part – AVID Symphony at $999, Autodesk Smoke $3500, BM Resolve $0.
David Roth Weiss
ProMax Systems
Burbank
DRW@ProMax.com
http://www.ProMax.com
Sales | Integration | SupportDavid is a Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Apple Final Cut Pro forum.
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David Roth weiss
April 19, 2012 at 8:19 pm[David Cherniack] “Smoke 2013 may be the greatest thing since Mazola Oil, but we won’t really know its limits for another 6-8 months. And the long time Smoke guys are not exactly wow-ing. I guess they may know something that the wow-ers don’t.”
The long-time Smoke experts I spoke with said that Smoke has been dumbed-down, and that many things that were formerly extremely fast and done with just one keyboard command are now slow and require multiple mouse clicks.
It could be that change is simply never easy to accept – it could be that Smoke is really dumbed-down. Who really knows at this point?
David Roth Weiss
ProMax Systems
Burbank
DRW@ProMax.com
http://www.ProMax.com
Sales | Integration | SupportDavid is a Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Apple Final Cut Pro forum.
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Chris Kenny
April 19, 2012 at 8:49 pm[Herb Sevush] “The MacPro currently sticks out like a sore thumb in Apple’s current line of consumer gadgets.”
I don’t know quite how true this is. The MacBook Pro is also a fairly high-end performance focused machine, and is marketed as such. (The current subheading on its product page is “State-of-the-art processors. All-new graphics. Breakthrough high-speed I/O”.)
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Craig Seeman
April 19, 2012 at 9:01 pm[Herb Sevush] “Great, so lets try to squeeze every last drop out of that rock and hope someone buys it at full price the day before we come out with the upgrade. Nice.”
Like it or not, Apple’s done this before and does this as a matter of course. It’s actually smart business although maybe not great customer relations.
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Chris Harlan
April 19, 2012 at 10:23 pm[Chris Kenny] “I’d put the odds of there being at least one more Mac Pro revision at 80%.”
Well, that’s optimistic! It would be cool if you were right, and I’d love to be wrong, but I’m thinking the odds are pretty much the exact opposite of what you’ve got going there. In fact, 20%–whatever that actually means–is generous.
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Craig Seeman
April 19, 2012 at 10:47 pmTo me the biggest clue (and it all depends on how you read it) is that there’s no mention of the MacPro in the FCP In Action case studies on Apple’s site and RadicalMedia only mentions “Mac” as well as the RedRocket doesn’t link to the card (which would have to be in an expansion chassis if there were no MacPro)
This doesn’t mean there won’t be a MacPro replacement but it may be called something else and it may not be in a Tower form factor. If it were a just an update with newer chips and some Thunderbolt ports I’d think the MacPro (which was apparently used in some of these) would have been mentioned.
It’s a bit of “Sherlock Holmes” for me but no mention of the MacPro, no mention of a computer model at all in one case study and no link to a card that would be in a PCIe slot looks like dots to connect.
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Chris Harlan
April 19, 2012 at 10:51 pm[Craig Seeman] “To me the biggest clue (and it all depends on how you read it) is that there’s no mention of the MacPro in the FCP In Action case studies on Apple’s site and RadicalMedia only mentions “Mac” as well as the RedRocket doesn’t link to the card (which would have to be in an expansion chassis if there were no MacPro)
“That’s a good one. The biggest one to me, though, is the CEO announcing 750,000 time within the course of the iPad intro that Apple is a “Post PC Company.”
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Craig Seeman
April 19, 2012 at 11:02 pmI’ve noted elsewhere that Apple is actually a leading PC maker. They are ranked third in USA (about 6 or 7 world wide) and their sales are going up. MacPro is not their only PC. MacBook Pros, as I understand it, are at or near the top in laptop sales above $1000. iMacs probably the same for all in ones. This when most companies are experiencing declines . . . and towers from many manufacturers are suffering the steepest declines.
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