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Herb Sevush
April 19, 2012 at 6:32 pm[Chris Kenny] “The Sandy Bridge E5 Xeons are new enough that Apple’s lack of a Mac Pro update doesn’t really mean anything either way yet. Especially since Intel sometimes formally “ships” a processor well before it’s actually available in quantities useful to OEMs.”
Given that HP announced they would be shipping the HP820 with the Sandy Bridge E5 Xeons at the end of May, and announced it the day the chips were formally announced by Intel, how is it that Apple, with their wonderful relationship to Intel, can’t get these same chips in quantity?
I very much hope your analysis is correct, I would buy one the first day, but my guess is it’s not going to happen, and since Apple won’t talk I’m probably going to have to commit my money elsewhere since I can’t wait for an illusion. Cloud computing is one thing, dream computing another.
Herb Sevush
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Chris Kenny
April 19, 2012 at 6:47 pm[Herb Sevush] “Given that HP announced they would be shipping the HP820 with the Sandy Bridge E5 Xeons at the end of May, and announced it the day the chips were formally announced by Intel, how is it that Apple, with their wonderful relationship to Intel, can’t get these same chips in quantity?”
If HP can get them in quantity in late May Apple presumably can as well. But why expect an announcement? Sure, HP made one, but Apple rarely announces Mac updates six weeks in advance of availability. In fact, the Mac Pro is a pretty low-profile product for Apple these days — it’s not impossible there will be no advance announcement at all, and the new models will simply appear in the online store one day.
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Herb Sevush
April 19, 2012 at 6:59 pm[Chris Kenny] ” In fact, the Mac Pro is a pretty low-profile product for Apple these days — it’s not impossible there will be no advance announcement at all, and the new models will simply appear in the online store one day.”
And it’s also not impossible that they will discontinue the line completely, in fact I’d say 80-20 for discontinuance precisely because the MacPro line is so low profile. The MacPro currently sticks out like a sore thumb in Apple’s current line of consumer gadgets. The MacPro, like Legacy, is aimed at a market Apple no longer cares about. I don’t blame them, it’s just business, but a little clarity would be nice.
This is one of the real pleasures of dealing with a company that doesn’t communicate with it’s customers, anybody’s opinion is valid because “he who speaks does not know, he who knows does not speak.”
Herb Sevush
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Jeremy Garchow
April 19, 2012 at 7:06 pm[Herb Sevush] “Cloud computing is one thing, dream computing another.”
Just curious, but have you even tired plugging in a thunderbolt raid (to an iMac/laptop) and doing a 5 cam multicam?
How do you know what dream is possible?
Jeremy
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Craig Seeman
April 19, 2012 at 7:23 pmKeep in mind the new Thunderbolt controllers are just coming out as well so Apple may have be waiting for all the pieces.
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Craig Seeman
April 19, 2012 at 7:26 pmHP wouldn’t be waiting for the new Thunderbolt controllers either.
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Craig Seeman
April 19, 2012 at 7:26 pm[Herb Sevush] “Given that HP announced they would be shipping the HP820 with the Sandy Bridge E5 Xeons at the end of May, and announced it the day the chips were formally announced by Intel, how is it that Apple, with their wonderful relationship to Intel, can’t get these same chips in quantity?”
Maybe just that Apple wouldn’t announce before they can actually ship because of what they currently have in the channel. There’s nothing like anticipating a newly announced product to kill sales (what’s left of it) of your current product.
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Herb Sevush
April 19, 2012 at 7:32 pm[Craig Seeman] “Maybe just that Apple wouldn’t announce before they can actually ship because of what they currently have in the channel. There’s nothing like anticipating a newly announced product to kill sales (what’s left of it) of your current product.”
Great, so lets try to squeeze every last drop out of that rock and hope someone buys it at full price the day before we come out with the upgrade. Nice.
Herb Sevush
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Herb Sevush
April 19, 2012 at 7:42 pm[Jeremy Garchow] “Just curious, but have you even tired plugging in a thunderbolt raid (to an iMac/laptop) and doing a 5 cam multicam? How do you know what dream is possible?”
Since these new TBolt expansion chassis were just announced in the past few days, I would have to say no to that.
In general the idea of using an Imac with Tbolt connectors is not very appealing. I’m trying to maximize my bandwidth; I want to maximize my ram and my GPU possibilities, I want PCIe 3 type speeds – how does that fit in with the idea of an Imac and Tbolt xpansion.
However, if someone can show me that I can get the speed I want with all the peripherals I need with Tbolt Imacs I will definitely give it a look. My preference now is to buy a Mac, I’m desperate to give them a lot of my money, but they have to give me something reliable and expandable that meets my needs. I’m open to any possibility that works. But I absolutely have to make a decision by June 1 – If I know that what I want is coming a few months later I can work around it, but if it’s all still a dream at that point then I’m jumping ship.
Herb Sevush
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Herb Sevush
April 19, 2012 at 7:45 pm[Craig Seeman] “Keep in mind the new Thunderbolt controllers are just coming out as well so Apple may have be waiting for all the pieces.”
As my grandma used to say “from your mouth to god’s ears.”
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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