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The death of QuickTime as we know it
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[Oliver Peters] “What’s your point?”
That time and technology marches forth. Are we really mad that the “Cloud generator” has been deprecated?
Arri is very dependent on Apple, not solely, but the dependence is there, and the success of the Alexa was in no small part due to ProRes.
DVCPro HD and then P2 wouldn’t have gained as wide of support without Apple.
The same is happening with the Sony F55.
10 years from now if Apple declares ProRes grandpas codec, I’m sure we will be OK. That’s all.
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[kevin louden] “At Testream we have been dealing with many of these issues ourselves from the software development side and are working on a new macosx multi format media player and inspection tool for professionals called Switch. “
Sounds great Kevin. Will it also have the ability to transcode and export like QT7 Player Pro?
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[Jeremy Garchow] “Arri is very dependent on Apple, not solely, but the dependence is there, and the success of the Alexa was in no small part due to ProRes.
DVCPro HD and then P2 wouldn’t have gained as wide of support without Apple.
The same is happening with the Sony F55. “While that may have been true then, it isn’t necessarily true now. Of course, most high-end DPs never selected Alexa for ProRes, nor an F55 or F65 because of some tie-in with Apple. You are talking about mass marketing, nothing else. I’m talking about technology and each of these companies had, has and will have other media format options that are completely independent of Apple. Remember that each of these companies has or is developing native hooks with all of the leading NLEs manufacturers, so ProRes might not even be much of a factor in the future at the higher end.
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And I am referring to the availability of the archive that is dependent on ProRes as a camera original. I expect codecs to continue changing as we go, but archives are a different matter.
Michael
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Ironically, Canon is using Grandpa’s M-JPEG codec in MOV wrappers to record 4K video in the 1DC. I guess Apple didn’t give them the memo 😉
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Archive is a different matter. It is also a moving target.
ProRes is here to stay, at least for now. So for now, we have to use it until something else comes along.
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[John Davidson] “Apple isn’t trying to change the industry standard for codecs as much as they’re trying to change the entire industry to mac only. Personally, I like this because I am not a fan of PC’s, however this might be terrifying to some people.”
If you really like Apple and it’s products, the last thing you should want is an industry dominated by Apple. Unless you honestly believe that competition doesn’t make for better and more innovative products…
You may not like PCs, but you should at least be mindful of the fact that some very good software exists on the Mac solely because it was successful on other platforms first… see Cinema 4D, 3D Studio Max and Smoke for Mac as examples.
Shawn
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How you archive is a moving target – but one less worry is not having your camera originals tied up in a proprietary format that may or may not exist in a decade’s time. If it were an openly documented wrapper and codec, one can always get those images back. That’s the whole point of SMPTE despite the time it takes to make anything a standard.
Michael
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Oh gosh, I’m not saying PC’s aren’t useful by any means. I keep my old Toshiba laptop around for when we need to shoot pickup shots where a computer gets coffee spilled on it, dropped, or just generally damaged in some way. I find them very useful for that purpose.
John Davidson | President / Creative Director | Magic Feather Inc.
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MXF by it’s very nature, is open source.
But companies can do what they’d like with it and add proprietary components.
I hear you. I’d love to be able to know what will happen in the next 30 years.
But if the last 30 is any prediction, then there’s no way to tell.
The fragmentation will continue.
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