The death of QuickTime as we know it

[John Davidson]

[Oliver Peters] “Ironically, Canon is using Grandpa’s M-JPEG codec in MOV wrappers to record 4K video in the 1DC. I guess Apple didn’t give them the memo 😉 “

Have you checked to see if those QT’s work in Mavs? So far photo jpeg codec QT’s work and preview fine in all our Maverick systems. No conversion needed.

Oh. Canon’s CEO is 78 years old. He must be somebody’s grandpa!

John Davidson | President / Creative Director | Magic Feather Inc.

[Shawn Miller]

[John Davidson] “Oh gosh, I’m not saying PC’s aren’t useful by any means. I keep my old Toshiba laptop around for when we need to shoot pickup shots where a computer gets coffee spilled on it, dropped, or just generally damaged in some way. I find them very useful for that purpose.”

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Well done John, well done.

Shawn

[Rich Rubasch]

MPEG Streamclip have a place in this quandry? Or since it relies on the QT foundation it will become useless….that would be a shame.

Rich Rubasch
Tilt Media Inc.
Video Production, Post, Studio Sound Stage
Founder/President/Editor/Designer/Animator
https://www.tiltmedia.com

[Oliver Peters]

[John Davidson] “Have you checked to see if those QT’s work in Mavs? So far photo jpeg codec QT’s work and preview fine in all our Maverick systems. No conversion needed.”

I haven’t tested this. When you checked, was this on a machine that DID NOT have QT7 or any version of FCP installed?

– Oliver

Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
http://www.oliverpeters.com

[Bill Davis]

I’m going to go even farther to annoy the group of which I am a firm member.

For 30 years people have been shooting stuff. And my bet is that about 1/10th of 1 percent of all the stuff shot has maintained any actual value a year past it’s creation.

The problem was that for so many years, it was so costly and took so much energy to CREATE video – that the standard was that you HAD to archive it. It had the perception of value.

Now I’m wondering if most video footage has much value past the type found in an aluminum can.

I’m not happy about this – but I think it’s increasingly true. I’m packing up for disposition my 300 DVCAM field tapes that have been sitting in my cabinet for more than a decade. And honestly, who cares what’s on them? It’s a sorta historical record of the companies that I’ve shot for – but so what? What are pictures of employees in old uniforms actually worth to the on-going enterprise today?

Squat. Pretty much.

We work our asses off to make good footage – but nobody really cares about it much but us.

Which is the real issue here.

Created today – consumed tomorrow – largely worthless next year (if not next month!)

Welcome to the digital era.

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[Kevin Louden]

Yes it will have video and audio correction tools as well as reformat and export functions.

[Oliver Peters]

[Bill Davis] “Created today – consumed tomorrow – largely worthless next year (if not next month!)”

Do you feel the same about archiving your own family history?

– Oliver

Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
http://www.oliverpeters.com

[John Davidson]

[Oliver Peters] “When you checked, was this on a machine that DID NOT have QT7 or any version of FCP installed?”

We haven’t installed FCP7 or QT7 on anything in a long long time. I feel like it’s been at least two years since we even thought about QT7.

This was a recently clean-installed macbook pro with Mavericks. It does have FCPX installed, but I would guess that if anyone has a photo-jpeg QT to playback, they probably have QT7, FCPX, or even FCP7 installed already.

John Davidson | President / Creative Director | Magic Feather Inc.

[Dave Gage]

[Oliver Peters] “Canon is using Grandpa’s M-JPEG codec in MOV wrappers to record 4K video in the 1DC.”

I apologize if this is a naive question, but I’ve been using ClipWrap from day one with AVCHD Canon files. Would it possible to put virtually any file format in a .mov wrapper?

Not positive, but I believe the underlying .mts Canon files are actually a form of H.264. Does the wrapping work because the H.264 is a kind of .mov file or would a .mov wrapper work on a “non-native” Apple format like .avi or .wmv file (or something more complex) without the need to transcode?

Thanks,
Dave

[Pat Horridge]

Been saying for over a year now that the days of Quick Time are numbered. Apple had no interest in moving it to 64bit and it has clearly become Frankenstein’s monster over the years.
Apples solution to that has always been to ditch it and move to something new and they now have AV foundation.
The new QTX players are scaled back and I ‘ve expected to see support for QT to diminish as time goes by.
Anyone who built their post model on needing QT (or any Apple proprietary product) was only looking at short term needs.

Pat Horridge
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