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The death of QuickTime as we know it
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[Walter Soyka] “I don’t see Apple doing anything to make this process easier, and that’s too bad. I fear Apple doing exactly the opposite: drawing back into their own standards, maybe even taking us back to the bad old days when Macs and PCs didn’t play together so nicely. “
[Jeremy Garchow] ” It’s always the end of the world around here.”
Today’s true story: a buddy of mine calls, asking about why Premiere won’t read some QuickTime files from his client on his PC. He had been delivered 4.5 hours of footage from iMovie, all Apple Intermediate Codec.
Two possible solutions: do it on a Mac instead, or transcode all that source footage with ffmpeg (AIC or “icod” was reverse-engineered six months ago).
It’s 2013, not 1993. This stuff should just work.
Walter Soyka
Principal & Designer at Keen Live
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
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[Walter Soyka] “It’s 2013, not 1993. This stuff should just work”
I guarantee you in 3013 this stuff still won’t work
Steve Connor
There’s nothing we can’t argue about on the FCPX COW Forum
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[Steve Connor] “I guarantee you in 3013 this stuff still won’t work”
Time to start encoding our digital lives on to cave walls.
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[Walter Soyka] “It’s 2013, not 1993. This stuff should just work.”
AIC was a horrible codec to begin with.
It worked on some weird version of iMovie and caused problems everywhere else. Fortunately, I never had to deal with HDV.
There’s a reason Apple dumped that mess quickly.
They should open it on a Mavericks Mac, and it will convert for them. Problem solved.
😛 🙂
Jeremy
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[Jeremy Garchow] “AIC was a horrible codec to begin with. It worked on some weird version of iMovie and caused problems everywhere else. Fortunately, I never had to deal with HDV. There’s a reason Apple dumped that mess quickly.”
I had to look this up. They didn’t dump that mess quickly. AIC wasn’t just for some weird version of iMovie. It was apparently for all versions of iMovie from iMovie HD 5 (2005) to iMovie ’11. And it’s not just HDV — AVCHD and other H.264 formats are also apparently optimized to AIC with these versions.
AIC was gross because it was 4:2:0, thin-raster, and relatively high data rate, but it was also nice at the time because you could use it for HD on pitifully slow computers.
Presumably the new iMovie 10.0 (released in 2013, somewhat confusingly newer than iMovie ’11) now optimizes to ProRes, Mavericks-style.
[Jeremy Garchow] “They should open it on a Mavericks Mac, and it will convert for them. Problem solved. 😛 :)”
Now why did I think of that? 🙂
Walter Soyka
Principal & Designer at Keen Live
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
RenderBreak Blog – What I’m thinking when my workstation’s thinking
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[Walter Soyka] “AIC wasn’t just for some weird version of iMovie. It was apparently for all versions of iMovie from iMovie HD 5 (2005) to iMovie ’11. And it’s not just HDV — AVCHD and other H.264 formats are also apparently optimized to AIC with these versions.”
I guess I haven’t been tracking iMovie releases.
Glad to hear the new iMovie Pro is using ProRes which seems to make sense.
Full snark:
Soon, ProRes will be the codec of choice for iOS, once the technology (ARM or whatever chips) are fast enough to handle it. And then, the Internet will deem it ‘Semi-ProRes’ because the mystique will be tarnished as it will be used to everyone with an iPad Air Mini Pro.
Then Apple will release TrueWorkingProRes with the “Copacabana” OS. It will be 16:16:16:32 and support 28.284901k resolution. Internet faith will be restored.
Meanwhile, everyone and I, will still complain about the loss of Quicktime as we know it, and no one else out there in video land will do anything about it but continue to complain. Except for Adobe. Maybe.
Just kidding. Sorta.
6 years is a short lifespan for a codec. I guess ‘quickly’ is a relative term.
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Adding Philip Hodgetts’ blog post although much has already been stated here.
https://www.philiphodgetts.com/2013/11/quicktime-is-deprecated-what-does-that-mean-in-practice/
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