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Tapeless P2
Hi
Ijust wondered if anyone had a REALISTIC P2 tapeless workflow (all formats) including archival in place. The company that I do work for archives footage/projects and repeatedly accesses it over the course of 10 years. Adding tape to the scenario increases the costs significantly-deck rental etc… A hard drive seems impractical for that length of time. Am I looking at DVD (Blu Ray etc…what’s the viability of that format(not great I’m sure) any solutions would be helpful.
pierre -
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Pierre, the magic bullet for P2 archiving is not in place yet. Over 10 years, the are bound to be more abundant and cheap data storage solutions. What seems to be the most reliable, but not cheap, solution is some sort of DLT tape backup. It’s pretty slow, not cheap, but holds lots and lots of data. You can also get dual layer DVD+Rs at the moment which will allow you one 8 GIG card per disc, but it’s also slow and not very abundant in terms of mass quantities of data.
For now, you are going to have to make do with the tools that are at hand and as storage becomes faster, bigger and cheaper you and you establishment will have to adjust and transfer your archive.
Jeremy
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Try find a computer that still uses 8″ or 3 1/4″ floppy disks.
In ten years P2 will be a long lost medium.
Tony Salgado
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[pierre robichaud] “A hard drive seems impractical for that length of time.”
I think if you run the numbers, you’ll discover that hard drives cost less than DVCPro HD tape for archiving…
Mitch Ives
Insight Productions Corp.
mitch@insightproductions.comApple Certified Trainer: Final Cut Pro 5
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[tony salgado] “In ten years P2 will be a long lost medium”
OUCH!!
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Pioneer BDR-101A Blu-ray Disc/DVD is now avail at B&H and other places.
Kerry
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25GB blank discs are about $30.00. That is about half price of the first dvd-r’s when they came out.
“everything is broken”
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Ok… I have to jump into this!
I’m sure that some of you know that I am an XDCAM user and love it thoroughly! P2 is a neat concept but not very feasable for everyday use and archiving. That alone made my company choose XDCAM. It the same IMX codec and has the same qualities as P2, BUT, with the major advantage of that the media is a 23 gig optical disc that costs only $30 per disk and you can sit it on the shelf for however long you wish.
If your company needs to archive footage and shelve it, then XDCAM is the total solution for this problem. If you have any questions about XDCAM, I will be glad to tell you anything you need to know. My company has been using it for the past year and its absolutely perfect for our needs.
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Wayne Carey
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[Wayne Carey] ” That alone made my company choose XDCAM. It the same IMX codec and has the same qualities as P2.”
Wayne
I beg to differ.
DVCPROHD compression is NOT in any way shape or form Long GOP mpeg. XDcam uses xml in Final Cut and an IMX codec while similar to the MXF format the 2 are not compatible to each other and are not interchangeable.gary adcock
Studio37
HD & Film Consultation
Post and Production Workflows
Chicago, IL
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I use 250GB internal drives that I attach to an open firewire 400 case. Each costs $90 and holds 10 hours of DVCPRO HD 720p24 footage. That’s $9 per hour.
Shane
Alokut Productions
http://www.lfhd.net
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