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  • Shawn Miller

    July 30, 2014 at 11:11 pm

    [Charlie Austin] “[Shawn Miller] “[Charlie Austin] “…or turn source audio channels on and off in PrCC.”

    Actually, you can…

    EDIT: Dangit! David beat me to it. 🙂

    I guess I wasn’t clear. If I cut a multichannel AV clip into the timeline, and decide I don’t want channels 2 and 4, I have to disable or delete them in Pr or whatever. If I delete them and then decide 3 days later I do want them, I need to match back to the source and cut them in again, or drag around a bunch of disabled sync audio until I decide to enable it or not. Right?”

    Nope, you can turn clip channels on and off at will. I do this quite often when working with P2 footage.

    Shawn

  • David Lawrence

    July 30, 2014 at 11:11 pm

    [Shawn Miller] “Right-click on the clip, select “audio channels”, change any channels you don’t want to use to “none”.”

    Thanks Shawn, that’s one. 😉

    To skim a clip, drag the time indicator with your mouse. To scroll beyond an edit point in the timeline, drag the time indicator with your mouse. Try it, it’s easy!

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  • David Lawrence

    July 30, 2014 at 11:14 pm

    [Aindreas Gallagher] “I actually just made this for you both – boom and goodnight.”

    +1000

    Aindreas, you officially WIN the internet tonight.

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  • Oliver Peters

    July 30, 2014 at 11:53 pm

    FWIW – since you have been talking about dissolves, fade handles, etc. – it’s worth noting that DAWs do audio dissolves, too. They are called crossfades and they can be asymmetrical.

    All of this is like a tinker toy compared with how Media Composer does it. Even FCP 7 and PPro are crude by comparison. On MC, you can drive the position and length of the dissolve before and after the dissolve center point – all driven strictly by keyboard. None of this BS mousing around.

    Furthermore, the last value entered is held until changed. Watch a talented MC editor apply dissolves to a series of clips and the speed blows away anything out there. You can also gang a group of clips and apply dissolves to all the cuts at once.

    – Oliver

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  • Charlie Austin

    July 30, 2014 at 11:53 pm

    [David Lawrence] “[Shawn Miller] “Right-click on the clip, select “audio channels”, change any channels you don’t want to use to “none”.”

    Thanks Shawn, that’s one. ;)”

    And if I don’t want any of them? Like, I don’t want to see them in the timeline at all, but then I want to 3 weeks later?

    [David Lawrence] “To skim a clip, drag the time indicator with your mouse. To scroll beyond an edit point in the timeline, drag the time indicator with your mouse. Try it, it’s easy!”

    Yes I get that, I was talking about doing it in the timeline without specifically selecting anything and mousing somewhere else.

    Look, I didn’t mean for this to be a feature for feature comparison. My point is that saying that X is somehow substandard ridiculous. It’s not. I can sit here and come up with a whole raft of things that I don’t like about, or can’t do, in Pr just like I can in X. But I don’t. PrCC is great. I’m glad you all prefer it. However, FCP X is better. I can totally back up this fact using the same reasoning as a lot of people who don’t agree. Because I said so. 😛

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  • Oliver Peters

    July 30, 2014 at 11:58 pm

    [Lance Bachelder] “Bummer – I haven’t worked with raw Red footage yet and have tried to remain 100% Pro Res.”

    More on this. The files that would not import in the main event, decided to finally show up today. This resulted in duplicate clips. Apparently one of the “rolls” contained mainly corrupt clips (bad camera hard drive?). This caused a ton of crashing in FCP X. I finally realized that and converted these to ProRes4444 using Redcine X Pro. This crashed a few times, too, but for the most part muscled through.

    This native media editing death-wish with a complex (and often flawed) format like RED is not worth the hassle.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
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  • Shawn Miller

    July 31, 2014 at 12:18 am

    [Charlie Austin] “[David Lawrence] “[Shawn Miller] “Right-click on the clip, select “audio channels”, change any channels you don’t want to use to “none”.”

    Thanks Shawn, that’s one. ;)”

    And if I don’t want any of them? Like, I don’t want to see them in the timeline at all, but then I want to 3 weeks later?”

    Yes, you can work that way as well. The trick though is that you have to set the channel format of the clip(s) to adaptive in the project panel (or make “adaptive” the default method for handling audio tracks). From there, you can select how many audio channels a clip uses, how many active channels per track etc. After that, you can enable, disable, reassign channels from the timeline all you want… channels will then disappear and re-appear as you change assignments.

    Shawn

  • Charlie Austin

    July 31, 2014 at 12:57 am

    [Shawn Miller] “Yes, you can work that way as well. The trick though is that you have to set the channel format of the clip(s) to adaptive in the project panel (or make “adaptive” the default method for handling audio tracks).”

    You lost me at “tracks”. 😉

    Kidding, good to know, thanks. 🙂

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  • Tony West

    July 31, 2014 at 1:17 am

    [John Davidson] “What you did there in that image – we never do that. You’re still approaching it from a track method, when the reality is you need to come at it from a layer method. We never, never, ever – NEVER – do dissolves like that on Audio only.”

    I’m so glad you said this John. I totally agree. I was wondering if I was crazy hehehe

    I have been working like this from the start with X and I find that I really like the sound of the crossfade of the music this way. I have easier control and I just really like it.

  • Gabe Strong

    July 31, 2014 at 9:37 am

    Tim,

    Well PP was a little annoying in the way a new NLE is at first. What you have to twirl
    down audio tracks to drag the volume up or down? Just little things. Honestly it
    didn’t take long, especially because Adobe (very intelligent thinking by them)
    provided FCP7 keyboard shortcuts. In all honesty, I’d be using Adobe’s newest
    offering today if they hadn’t switched to subscription only. But just as I was getting
    used to it…along comes CC. Now if you think it’s annoying having to learn
    a new NLE, try switching and j…….u…s…t as you are getting comfortable,
    switching again. Argh!! But hey, I’ve learned a lesson. Don’t depend on
    any of them. Become at least adequate in several NLEs. Give yourself
    options. And for the record, I just cut a job in Resolve 11. It’s a much better NLE
    than I was expecting. Needs some filters and transitions development maybe,
    but a very promising addition in my opinion. Give it a couple years and I have
    a suspicion that there may be a good number of us ‘FCP7 refugees’ taking a
    serious look at a ‘color grading NLE’.

    Gabe Strong
    G-Force Productions
    http://www.gforcevideo.com

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