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Switched…then switched back?
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[Aindreas Gallagher] “do you lads really wonder why we say koolaid sometimes?”
The fact that you think what John and i are saying is based on some irrational love of Apple products is stupid Aindreas. You have an opinion based on a cursory, prejudiced use of FCP X and a lot of experience in FCP 7 other NLE’s. But you’re pontificating as though we have no experience at all in anything but FCP X. The inflexible audio dissolves in X don’t matter. The lack of tracks and magnetism and secondary/connected clips are not a hindrance to anything. Unless you don’t like them, which is fine. They’re all pretty damn useful to me, and I miss them when I’m in other NLE’s. Also, I prefer whiskey. 😉
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[David Lawrence] “[Charlie Austin] “f you mean he’s right in that you put an asymmetric dissolve transition on an audio cut in X, yes. If you think he’s right in saying audio editing is somehow hobbled in FCP X because of that then both he, and you, are wrong.”
It all depends on what you’re doing, Charlie. I’ll show you when I get a free minute.”
I’m sure there are situations where an asymmetric dissolve would be useful. All I’m saying is the only reason I would miss it in X is if I was trying to do something exactly like I do in another NLE. But why would I do that? I don’t skim clips or scroll beyond an edit point in the timeline or turn source audio channels on and off in PrCC. Because I can’t. I work in it in the way it was designed to accomplish the same thing. I guess I should be posting about how broken it is.
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LOL – I’m glad you’re not pissed. Almost didn’t post that :).
Seriously though, I haven’t thought about this supposed problem in years man, years. Of all the speculative issues I could have with X I don’t consider this one at all. It’s hard to explain it, but where you see an issue I see freedom.
We’ve completed so many projects since moving to X. My editors and I routinely sit down and discuss how we’re working with it – this never comes up. Since the 10.1.2 update and our workflow change to local libraries (as well as moving everyone to 10Gbe) problems with the actual editing are few and far between. Most of our issues are related to just figuring things out – like XML as a backup, etc.
Locking together clips for a dissolve really never comes up. They’re just not as relevant to how you edit in X when you get deep into it. Sometimes we use them, but rarely. We prefer to keep elements separate so they can slip and slide as we want. The dissolves still happen – they’re just not cemented in anymore.
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[Charlie Austin] “I don’t skim clips or scroll beyond an edit point in the timeline or turn source audio channels on and off in PrCC. Because I can’t.”
Actually, you can do all of those things in Pr, but that’s a topic for another thread… 😉
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[Charlie Austin] “…or turn source audio channels on and off in PrCC.”
Actually, you can…
EDIT: Dangit! David beat me to it. 🙂
Shawn
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[Charlie Austin] “If you think he’s right in saying audio editing is somehow hobbled in FCP X because of that then both he, and you, are wrong.”
well no charlie, who wants or needs a workable audio edit dissolve, when you’re doing AB audio edits half the day using….
a twenty second century editing microwave.So to be very clear here:
I am never ever going to stop referring to the future microwave comment. there is no way to take that back. You agreed with john. that’s co-ownership.
I actually just made this for you both – boom and goodnight.
https://i.imgur.com/574uWB1.jpg
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[David Lawrence] “[Charlie Austin] “I don’t skim clips or scroll beyond an edit point in the timeline or turn source audio channels on and off in PrCC. Because I can’t.”
Actually, you can do all of those things in Pr, but that’s a topic for another thread… 😉
“In the timeline without changing modes? Do tell.
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[Shawn Miller] “[Charlie Austin] “…or turn source audio channels on and off in PrCC.”
Actually, you can…
EDIT: Dangit! David beat me to it. 🙂
“I guess I wasn’t clear. If I cut a multichannel AV clip into the timeline, and decide I don’t want channels 2 and 4, I have to disable or delete them in Pr or whatever. If I delete them and then decide 3 days later I do want them, I need to match back to the source and cut them in again, or drag around a bunch of disabled sync audio until I decide to enable it or not. Right?
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[Charlie Austin] “[David Lawrence] “[Charlie Austin] “I don’t skim clips or scroll beyond an edit point in the timeline or turn source audio channels on and off in PrCC. Because I can’t.”
Actually, you can do all of those things in Pr, but that’s a topic for another thread… 😉
”In the timeline without changing modes? Do tell.”
Right-click on the clip, select “audio channels”, change any channels you don’t want to use to “none”.
Shawn
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[Charlie Austin] “Also, I prefer whiskey. ;-)”
stoney sober son. I’m unlikely to make involved arguments on audio workflow bacheldered.[Charlie Austin] “The fact that you think what John and i are saying is based on some irrational love of Apple products is stupid Aindreas. “
you both just said that your experience with X was like explaining a microwave to a previous generation. I’m going to be easy on you charlie – that would be sad if it wasn’t inherently funny.It’s just a completely insane thing to say. Also it seemed (?) you didn’t get the basic problem with the X dissolves until I outlined it to you there.
[Aindreas Gallagher] “i give it 15 frames to blend on the left, and a small dissolve tail of 5 on the exit.”
Point taken. Still, I find editing audio without dissolves to be quicker and more precise in X than in 7 or Pr.what’s better to me overall is when you say:
[Charlie Austin] “The inflexible audio dissolves in X don’t matter. The lack of tracks and magnetism and secondary/connected clips are not a hindrance to anything. Unless you don’t like them, which is fine. “
Grand – I can look at that and make my own decision. But you don’t have a future microwave Charlie. That’s a personal fantasy on your part.
maybe more john’s part seeing as how he actually said the thing??either way kids – it’s a bit silly.. 🙂
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