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Aindreas Gallagher
July 30, 2014 at 9:29 pmyou’re wrong jim.
OK. lets do simples.
I have charlie, an audio edit that splices from an earlier bar to a later bar. the incoming section is bang on, but the dissolve cannot go more than four or five frames on the right because the track starts to alter after that on the earlier bar, i give it 15 frames to blend on the left, and a small dissolve tail of 5 on the exit. That’s my splice.
[Charlie Austin] “Changing the start or end point a la Fcp 7 etc is exactly the same as dragging the midpoint in X.”
so you see this is all completely wrong. In X i have instead an applied 20 frame dissolve. yes I can alter the centre point, but I am simply shoving the edit point itself with the ten frames of dissolve on either side left or right. What I need to do, when its sits at the correct point, once I know the underlying edit splice is bang on, is make the incoming edit dissolve 15, and the outgoing 5.
what you are suggesting charlie, and what X offers, is the ability to move the edit point itself with the dissolve slaved to it. It’s always ten frames either side. That’s not a goer.
Interestingly, while 7 allowed the shifting of the total dissolve left or right to favour the incoming or outgoing audio, PPro goes one further and treats the left and right as two independent handle edits. It’s really nice.
much more plain than this, I cannot make it kids.
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John Davidson
July 30, 2014 at 9:33 pm[Aindreas Gallagher] ” i give it 15 frames to blend on the left, and a small dissolve tail of 5 on the exit. That’s my splice. “
My screen grab accomplishes this almost exactly as you describe. And I do all of it in about 4 seconds.
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Aindreas Gallagher
July 30, 2014 at 9:40 pmNo. ara please. You’re apparently doing audio AB editing all the time because the dissolve is nearly useless John. come on. file a feature request!
You can tell me it takes you four seconds to start AB editing every single music audio edit you ever do, but those four seconds add up baby, and I would be driven clean out of my mind having to split a single track into endless AB edits in order to control something as basically necessary as what we’re talking about.
The X dissolve tool is total pants. it’s OK to say it. No harm will come to you!
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Charlie Austin
July 30, 2014 at 9:42 pm[Aindreas Gallagher] “i give it 15 frames to blend on the left, and a small dissolve tail of 5 on the exit.”
Point taken. Still, I find editing audio without dissolves to be quicker and more precise in X than in 7 or Pr. You need them in those apps because, other than keyframes, you have no choice. And yes, the PR CC dissolve adjustment tab offers very nice control. I can do the exact same thing, with finer control, in the X timeline using fade handles just as easily. Easier actually.
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John Davidson
July 30, 2014 at 9:43 pmI feel like I’m describing how the microwave works to my Grandpa.
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Charlie Austin
July 30, 2014 at 9:43 pm[John Davidson] “I feel like I’m describing how the microwave works to my Grandpa.
“You are.
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David Lawrence
July 30, 2014 at 9:50 pm[John Davidson] “My screen grab accomplishes this almost exactly as you describe. And I do all of it in about 4 seconds.”
LOL, guess I opened a can of worms. 😉
Appreciate the replies guys, but Aindreas is exactly right.
When I get a little free time, I’ll show you why.
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Charlie Austin
July 30, 2014 at 9:53 pm[David Lawrence] “but Aindreas is exactly right.”
If you mean he’s right in that you can’t put an asymmetric dissolve transition on an audio cut in X, yes. If you think he’s right in saying audio editing is somehow hobbled in FCP X because of that then both he, and you, are wrong.
EDIT: Not to say you can’t have that opinion, just, well… it’s not true. 🙂
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David Lawrence
July 30, 2014 at 9:58 pm[Charlie Austin] “f you mean he’s right in that you put an asymmetric dissolve transition on an audio cut in X, yes. If you think he’s right in saying audio editing is somehow hobbled in FCP X because of that then both he, and you, are wrong.”
It all depends on what you’re doing, Charlie. I’ll show you when I get a free minute.
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Aindreas Gallagher
July 30, 2014 at 10:00 pm[John Davidson] “I feel like I’m describing how the microwave works to my Grandpa.”
ah christ but you guys are funny i swear. what do you think you’re holding john? A ray gun? its an edit system with some great points and some very stupid stuff, and a really, really really crappy dissolve tool. I mean – is someone holding a gun to your head john? blink twice if so. It’s OK to say its a lousy dissolve tool mate.
jesus but that line made me laugh out loud there. Not in a bad way, but Sometimes I swear…. do you lads really wonder why we say koolaid sometimes?
lets have that again one more time sure.
[John Davidson] “I feel like I’m describing how the microwave works to my Grandpa.”
ah man. that’s one for the ages. Did apple give ye rocket packs as well????
sorry – I’m ribbing you john, but that was genuinely funny as hell bud. you gave me the giggles. 🙂
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