Switched…then switched back?

[Andrew Kimery]

Careful Tim, this sounds like a poll. 😉

[Charlie Austin]

[Tim Wilson] “So?”

You’re about a week too late. 🙂

https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/335/71478

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[Tim Wilson]

[Charlie Austin] “You’re about a week too late. :-)”

Not exactly. It’s definitely one of the longer threads of late, but it starts with the assumption that there are people who HAVE switched back, and I’m not sure how common that is. Certainly nobody on that thread said “Yes.” There was one who switched FROM Premiere to X, and another who switched FROM Legend and Avid to X….but both of them said that they had no plans to switch back to their FORMER nles.

I may have been reading it wrong, but that’s what I saw.

Which is why I’m trying to come at it from a different angle. Somebody who said, “Okay, I’ve been using Legend, and X isn’t for me, so I’m going to Media Composer or Premiere,” and who THEN says, “Wow, I thought that that was going to work a lot better than it did. Turns out I didn’t like this other thing much at all, so I’m going to go to X after all.”

[Andrew Kimery] “Careful Tim, this sounds like a poll. ;)”

Which is also why this isn’t a poll. LOL I’m not structuring samples, not testing my questions for bias, not correlating a cohort to a longitudinal cross-sectional, and, above all, not expecting useful results that should guide anyone’s corporate policies or product development. LOL Just chewing the cud, nothing more.

So there it is. Did anybody here jump FROM either Legend or X, to Premiere or Media Composer, not like what they saw for whatever reason, and jump to, or back to, X?

[Justin Crowell]

I didn’t chime in there, so I’ll chime in here:
I work at a national sports network, and as a freelancer.

At the network, we work on FC7 and are switching to Premiere at the end of the season.

At home, I work on Premiere.

For me: I’m an After Effects man, and though I do find Dynamic Link buggy, it’s sometimes useful.

I have given FCX three significant tries, and it’s not yet for me. I actually really like the timeline–I find it pretty slick for the editing work I do. My issues with it are a sluggish interface that is a bit too bubbly/rounded and animation heavy(this makes auditions really irritating); oddities like the blade tool cutting either the previous or current frame; a handful of bugs that just made the process frustrating; and a subclipping system that doesn’t fit my workflow (I’m poor with a mouse, so hover-scrub is tough for me).

Granted, Premiere’s subclipping system currently appears to be broken. I also find a lot of Premiere’s basic editing tools to be half-baked (in particular, I REALLY want a superimpose edit, a la FC7), and the software has its serious bugs. I need to give FCX another serious shot–maybe when the season is over I’ll cut another couple of projects in it. But, for now, as I’m really fast with tracks and I spend about 50% of my time in AE, Premiere is the right choice for me.

Just my $29/month.

Editor, Producer, DP
JustinCrowell.com

[Lance Bachelder]

I’m one of those that has gone back and forth several times on both PC and Mac platforms. While I was a long time FCP user I was also concurrently using Sony Vegas on a PC for most of the past decade. After using Premiere CC for the past year with overall positive results I’ve made the switch to FCPX and liking it a lot – some glaring weaknesses are key framing, lack of a simple way to replace a clip in the timeline i.e. Right-click “replace” and /or match-framing. But overall I like it.

If something better comes along like Resolve 12 or Vegas 14 on the PC I’ll happily check them out and give them a serious look.

It was at a Vegas premiere that I resolved to become an avid FCPX user.

Lance Bachelder
Writer, Editor, Director
Downtown Long Beach, California
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1680680/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1

[David Mathis]

Does kind of feel like a poll. 🙂

Serious side now, was thinking of going Resolve but tracks feel so awkward kind of like some the fashion that Lady Gaga wears. LOL

Then there is the ability of custom effects, transitions and generators one could build in Motion, super awesome.

On the other hand I have been looking at Lightworks as a possible alternative. Still liking X very much. My two cents whatever it is worth.

It might be idiot proof but I am still blonde.

I am an avid user of FCP X!

[Aindreas Gallagher]

timeline still bugs me. David Lawrence is running logging through it, so on some level it’s turning out to be the ‘first cut’ application Ubillos actually designed it to be.

tiny rant: It’s weird that people ignore the fact that the cardinal timeline decisions he took in showing it as first cut to jobs are equivalent to the timeline control available in prelude – although ubillos radically expanded it after the order to make it the entire editing basis. It’s a massive pity in a way. Cook, you would think, would never be so insane as to go that intellectually Khmer Rouge Year Zero on editing understanding off one meeting you’d think.

but Ubillos’s intention was for an incredibly rich logging application with a basic staging precursor timeline. you’d still think that’s what X is. The timeline is loaded with immediate quick construction aids, and the footage organisation demands a ton of the GUI and is incredibly powerful.

there’s no getting around the manner of X’s birth and the crazy signals in it. Everyone keeps staring at the footage organisation, and Scott Simmons just asked why the timeline GUI space is still there when it’s not needed.

the footage organisation is a faberge egg, the persistent inspector applicable to multiple timeline instance audio channels and that stuff is madsers, the power masks hanging off every clip still beat the current adobe kludge for style if not tracking…

Its the timeline. the secondary storylines, the connected cousins, the no audio paste, the ridiculous white dot, the stupid tilde key.

You’d think, particularly after resolve 11, the X timeline is a gigantic honking elephant in the Cupertino software room.

https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

[Tim Wilson]

[Aindreas Gallagher] “Its the timeline. the secondary storylines, the connected cousins, the no audio paste, the ridiculous white dot, the stupid tilde key. “

[Charlie Austin]

[Aindreas Gallagher] “Its the timeline. the secondary storylines, the connected cousins, the no audio paste, the ridiculous white dot, the stupid tilde key.

You’d think, particularly after resolve 11, the X timeline is a gigantic honking elephant in the Cupertino software room.
“

I’ll give you the missing overwrite paste (insert works jus fine thank you), and I’ll even throw you the inexplicably missing match frame replace and Lance’s UI animation concerns. (a faster newer computer makes this less of a concern though). But everything else you cite as bad is, to me, actually quite good. So there.

Also… have you used R11? I mean actually cut something in it? You’d probably like it, but nobody who likes X is gonna switch, having fixed tracks and all. Really, the only way in which the X timeline is an elephant is that in the right hands it can easily crush the competition. 🙂

And to remain on topic… Yes, I got both Pr and MC once I tried the first version of X. I found MC to be just as i remembered it, and Pr to be a beefed up, yet overly complicated version of FCP 7. I did give them both a good workout though, as well as basically sticking with 7 ’til X was useable. Now i prefer X and it’s my main axe, except when circumstances force me to use something else. I’d rather not have to…

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~ My FCPX Babbling blog ~
~”It is a poor craftsman who blames his tools.”~
~”The function you just attempted is not yet implemented”~

[Aindreas Gallagher]

[Charlie Austin] “the missing overwrite paste (insert works jus fine thank you),”

come on.

https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics