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still driving me nuts
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[Mike Warmels] “Read before you post please. I explained clearly why I CANNOT update yet. It has to do with a client who can’t update. “
Well, I guess that we could all sit around and bash Pr CS6 because it doesn’t have all of the new features that CC 2014, then?
[Mike Warmels] “And then we run into the downward compatibility issue “
As has been mentioned, FCPX 10.2 allows you to export the older version of FCPXML not only for FCPX itself, but for other helper apps. I use it almost every day (v 1.4) and nothing has stopped me from working.
[Mike Warmels] “And I know you can move your render files etc. But I work WITH other people who also work with my libraries. So we have to keep things simple (ideally I’d only exchange libraries but sometimes we run into relinking issues if we have copies of the same media). “
I work on a shared environment (SAN) on Yosemite, and haven’t had any problems. We send libraries or timelines, media, whatever, around and don’t have any relinking issues when using original media. Any NLE requires certain workflows and best practices, FCPX is no different.
[Mike Warmels] “I sometimes get the idea that people who worship FCPX work alone… not in larger workgroups with different locations, different set ups, audio mixers, color graders, broadcasters and their broadcast requirements (I can’t even make a broadcast master for my country from FCPX – you always have to go third party, but not even Compressor helps out there).
“Again, I routinely send out *cough* projects to graders and audio, graphics and effects, and share my edits to other systems that don’t understand FCPXML. I have had one complaint, and that was because I missed a file once that had 16 channels of audio, and it was my fault for missing it. Otherwise, everything is much more organized and labeled. The audio post guys comment that I am the only person that labels their tracks/audio channels, and it helps them out when they receive a program they aren’t familiar with.
I don’t know what kind of broadcast master you need to make, but if it isn’t covered with Compressor, surely Adobe Media Encoder, or Telestream Episode will cover it? I couldn’t make an HD master on a UVW-1800 no matter how hard I tried. Or are you saying there’s a board cast master than can be made using Quicktime 7, but not FCPX?
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You don’t have to respond. But hey…let’s be honest here. 10.2 has only been out for SIX WEEKS!!! It’s not like that’s the one that has always been around.
So I guess 10.2.1, the current version, is the PERFECT NLE… all debates can now be closed. I’ll download it today! Perfection has been achieved. NLE heaven is here. Close down all the rest.
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[Mike Warmels] “So I guess 10.2.1, the current version, is the PERFECT NLE… all debates can now be closed. I’ll download it today! Perfection has been achieved. NLE heaven is here. Close down all the rest.
“No-one is saying that, we’re just pointing out it fixes many of the things that you are actually moaning about. Still LOTS of development to be done – it is the newest NLE out there!
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Normally I don’t have to make them. We do the final stuff at the broadcaster who makes the broadcast master (MXF). But working in AVID I can make them in my own editing set. Sometimes it’s just faster that way, just upload them to an ftp server. So it’s not a real issue, I just find it odd. (Because FCP7 could…and can. 😉 )
So tell me, this is something I’d really like to know: you can actually make fcpxml’s in FCPX 10.2.1 that WORK in FCPX 10.1.4? Including all the audio data, audio selection, audio levels, fx etc. in tact? Because if that is the case, I’m going to upgrade this week.
One thing that I am very excited about about the latest update is the fact that it uses GPU power for rendering. Something I have been looking forward to for ages in any NLE. So if it were up to me, I’d upgrade six weeks ago. But I don’t want to do all kinds of tricks and stuff in my spare time to make it downward compatible.
There’s an editing facility house that has three of four versions of FCPX running on their systems, because some of their client runs various older versions. And upgrading from 10.0.9 (yes, some companies still work with that old thing) is apparanly quite hard. But that also causes issues, having the various systems running….
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[Mike Warmels] “So I guess 10.2.1, the current version, is the PERFECT NLE… all debates can now be closed. I’ll download it today! Perfection has been achieved. NLE heaven is here. Close down all the rest.”
As absolutely troll-tastic as could be expected. The consumate professional we should all look to as our true guide to NLE bliss. Clearly. As proven over and over by his superior and precise knowledge of all.
*facepalm*
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Oh so it isn’t perfect.
I find it somewhat discouraging you seem to have no understanding of the fact that I work with clients that don’t make the upgrade. You could also say: “yeah, those are issues in 10.1.4. 10.2 has many of them solved.Would be great of you could upgrade”. I mean…come on… 10.2 has only been out for SIX WEEKS…and has already had its first upgrade… You know… even 10.2 had issues that had to be fixed within days.
And personnally I thin the “newest NLE out there” is a weak argument. Apple’s had years and YEARS of experience with an NLE: FCP1-7…. What I find odd that they seem to be reinventing themselves entirely (and slowly but surely they’re putting a lot of the old version back…)
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[Steve Connor] “No-one is saying that, we’re just pointing out it fixes many of the things that you are actually moaning about. Still LOTS of development to be done – it is the newest NLE out there!”
Yes.
In no way is FCPX perfect, Mike. There are many mechanics that could use some improvement, anyone who is honest with themselves and uses FCPX on a daily basis will tell you that.
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Troll tactic… ha!
Some of you have been quite condescending in a thread called “FCPX or Not”. You don’t like the lesser points of FCPX. Everything I address (and have addressed in the past about previous version (like the pre-Library Events and Projects system) is always answered by “get the new version, everything has been resolved”…
Within four weeks after 10.2 was released, there was the first update. FCPX is an NLE in development. I think we can all agree on that. No version is perfect!
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[Mike Warmels] “Troll tactic… ha!”
Certainly starting to sound like it
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Maybe I should use the Tactic of Condescending Attitude like some people have been directing at me… I guess that is the better way to have a conversation. I don’t I have to take any behaviour.
It’s just software that I and you all trying to make a living with. It’s not some damn religion…
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