still driving me nuts

[Jeremy Garchow]

[Mike Warmels] “And yes, there are things very unprofessional about it. It’s not great in working with other systems, it needs a lot of space (Libraries reaching sizes of well into the double digit GB’s”

With every post it is more and more obvious that you haven’t discovered the basics of FCPX. If you have been using FCPX extensively for the past few months, you woudl know that having a large library is a choice, not a mandate. You have a choice where to store your media and cache.

These are issues that are easily solved with even a rudimentary knowledge of FCPX, including how to sort media.

You call FCPX immature, yet refuse to update to the most recent version which contains improvements including to the cache and waveform drawing (which will help with your playback issues, too).

Sorry to be so defensive, but it’s very tiring to hear about how crappy FCPX is from people who don’t really use it. I know, I know, you use it, but…your libraries are many GBs which seems to make think that you’ve haven’t even really scratched the surface.

[James Ewart]

[Robin S. Kurz] “So… who’s keeping you from doing it?

In all of four years, I have never said “timeline” to an FCP X User and not had them understand exactly what I mean.”

Do you come here to get your rocks off arguing and point scoring with people or to try and contribute and engage in a mutually enlightening debate?

Don’t answer that I already know the answer.

[Bill Davis]

[Mike Warmels] “So it’s a serious tool, but to be honest, it’s just not finished IMHO. I think they threw it on the market too soon and it’s being reworked, refined etc ever since. I’m sure one day it’ll be a fine working NLE.”

Wow.

A few times over the years, and a deeper dive over a couple of MONTHS?

I wonder how you would feel if a Guy (lets assume he’s a very qualified inDesign type), but just had exactly as much experience with Photoshop as you’ve had with X, applied for a gig and started expounding about how lacking Photoshop is as a image tool – I wonder how much credence you’d give his opinion?

Or would you just assume he just didn’t know Photoshop deeply enough to have very qualified knowledge of the subject?

But I guess that with X, it’s different. After all, so many folks with your level of experience have said these same things that it MUST be true, hun?

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[Mike Warmels]

No need to be so hostile, dude. Or condescending.

I said I have been working alone AND with FCPX experienced editors. Guys who have been working with it professionally for over two years. And I even see them run into these problems.

The idea has always been that FCPX is quick, intuitive, easy to learn, new paradigm, etc etc. So I have cut six 25 minute shows in the fast two months weeks from start to finish on FCPX. It’s not like I’m a novice in editing. I have been doing this kind of work for well over 20 years and I have done all kinds of editing systems lineair, non-linear FCP7, AVID etc. If I run into weird things with a new system and ask editors who have been working with FCPX for over two years and even they run into them but found ways to work with or around it, then it’s just part of the system.

So there’s a lot of boasting about FCPX going on, and people like you who seem to find a need to go condescending people who have issues with then, fine… have your fun.

I thought this was the “FCPX or NOT” thread, not the “FCPX is God’s Gift to Editors’ thread.

Feel offended by anyone who points out things that don’t work well. It critics that make these systems better, you know.

[Robin S. kurz]

[James Ewart] “Do you come here to get your rocks off arguing and point scoring with people or to try and contribute and engage in a mutually enlightening debate?”

Certainly something I clearly don’t need to ask you either. Don’t bother “engage[ing] in a mutually enlightening debate” and actually answering the question. But I guess that in itself is the answer.

I know… what an amazingly provocative question is was, right? Completely justifies such a abstruse, rabid response. Very engaging, very enlightening.

– RK

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[Mike Warmels]

Read before you post please. I explained clearly why I CANNOT update yet. It has to do with a client who can’t update.

And then we run into the downward compatibility issue (something I’ve been dealing with for many many years of FCP (ANY version). It’s these things that never gets solved, simply because Apple doesn’t want different stuf around: they want you to continually update and buy new stuff as you go along.

And I know you can move your render files etc. But I work WITH other people who also work with my libraries. So we have to keep things simple (ideally I’d only exchange libraries but sometimes we run into relinking issues if we have copies of the same media).

I sometimes get the idea that people who worship FCPX work alone… not in larger workgroups with different locations, different set ups, audio mixers, color graders, broadcasters and their broadcast requirements (I can’t even make a broadcast master for my country from FCPX – you always have to go third party, but not even Compressor helps out there).

Let me put it very simply then: FCPX is NOT perfect. AVID is not perfect. Premiere is NOT perfect. They all have issues, that’s why we discuss them.

[Robin S. kurz]

[Mike Warmels] “simply because Apple doesn’t want different stuf around: they want you to continually update and buy new stuff as you go along. “

Wow. That’s just plain obtuse. The FCP team/Apple are jerks, because they introduce new features, therefore have to update the XML code, therefore older version can’t understand it! LOL… you’re just plain brilliant.

[Mike Warmels] “(ideally I’d only exchange libraries but sometimes we run into relinking issues if we have copies of the same media). “

You clearly haven’t understood even the most basic concepts of FCP’s media management.

[Mike Warmels] “not in larger workgroups with different locations, different set ups, audio mixers, color graders, broadcasters and their broadcast requirements (I can’t even make a broadcast master for my country from FCPX – you always have to go third party, but not even Compressor helps out there).”

Right. You have completely obscure, vastly different output requirements than the plethora of broadcast companies around the world that work with FCP X 24/7. They can’t actually get anything useable out, and being blind and (unlike you of course) unprofessional “FCPX worshippers” they keep their mouth shut, so as not to taint the good name.

Bravo.

– RK

[Mike Warmels]

Why are so aggressive about it? Did you give birth to FCPX or something?

Tell me then how to make an MXF broadcast mate from FCPX? I said ‘my country’ because i have no idea how it works in other countries. I think having MXF masters a little outdated.Yet a lot of camera’s work with it, so it’s not a totally alien choice.

And my point remains: why did FCP5/6/7 and why do AVID and Premiereall these export possibilities IN the programme and FCPX not? You still haven’t answered that. Wouldn’t you LIKE to have these sharing possibilities that you can just select codec, size, bit rate etc etc? Would that be such a nasty option to have? It used to be quite natural.

But fine. Since you’re the expert, explain to me the basics of FCPX Mediamanagement? Because I’d really like to learn.

[Robin S. kurz]

[Mike Warmels] “Did you give birth to FCPX or something? “

Thanks for making so many things clear.

[Mike Warmels] “Tell me then how to make an MXF broadcast mate from FCPX? “

Well gee, I would… IF ONLY YOU HAD THE MOST CURRENT VERSION. Oh right… please, continue the endless circle, won’t you? Remind us why FCP is clearly the problem here, not anything else. We keep forgetting.

This is a seriously cringeworthy waste of everyone’s time. Thanks. I’m out.

– RK

[Steve Connor]

[Robin S. Kurz] “[Mike Warmels] “Tell me then how to make an MXF broadcast mate from FCPX? ”

Well gee, I would… IF ONLY YOU HAD THE MOST CURRENT VERSION. Oh right… please, continue the endless circle, won’t you? Remind us why FCP is clearly the problem here, not anything else. We keep forgetting.”

It is a little odd moaning about problems that have already been fixed.