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  • Marvin Holdman

    September 14, 2011 at 8:40 pm

    I’m thinking a bit of respect for some of the folks that created an industry that allows you to participate might be in order. If you think Apple, Sony or any other gear manufacturer created this business, you’re wrong. It was a BUNCH of folks working at MANY levels for a VERY long time that created the opportunity for you to “try something new”. Might be wise to listen a bit more than talking when someone who’s done this for a very long time speaks.

    Food for thought.

    Marvin Holdman
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  • Herb Sevush

    September 14, 2011 at 9:21 pm

    Didn’t know that about Starbucks, I had always thought they were simply a Seattle coffee shop that turned malignant. Lewis Black once said he knew the end of the world had come when he saw a Starbucks opening across the street from another Starbucks.

    A friend of mine, a “renowned” producer to quote a recent article I just saw, often conducted his morning meetings in fancy midtown hotel lobbies, even though he had a perfectly nice office of his own; somehow it lent a special air to the event. We used to joke that the perfect NY office would be an RV that he could have customized and driven to wherever his clients office was so that all they had to do was take the elevator down and, presto, let the meeting begin. Even with the cost of a driver thrown into the mix, as an option to the cost of keeping a NY office, this was more than just an idle concept.

    I’m all for mobilized, decentralized workflows. I’ve been working that way for most of the last 25 years. I use Ichat to remotely collaborate with editors a continent away. My favorite VO guy is someone I’ve worked with for almost 15 years and I’ve never met him in the flesh, the same with one of my favorite composers. I was pushing the edge with using personal computers for video editing back when Steve Jobs was getting ready to release the first 128K B&W Mac.

    However there are certain functional limits to the projects I now work on, and the body I inhabit. I need large screens, and many of them. I prefer keyboards as an input tool. I prefer not to work with headphones. I need fast raids to handle mutli-cam editing. None of this is going to change for me as long as A) I need to deliver for broadcast B) I don’t reverse time and start getting younger. Until either I start getting “smaller, simpler, more agile” or people’s home TV’s do, then editing on an iBook or Ipad is irrelevant to me.

    And your right, it is worth thinking about.

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions

  • Kim Krause

    September 14, 2011 at 9:55 pm

    respect my ass…respect is something you earn…i guess my 35 years in the industry doesn’t count for shit then…..sorry if i seem so rude but i can’t stand the bleeding politically correct twits who are so afraid to really say whats on their minds…….what i say is my opinion and i am glad to see that some people agree with me…not everyone will and thats fine…i am merely trying to get people to not stagnate and be open to new ideas and ways of working…..the starbucks post is exactly what i have been talking about…in a few years we won’t need any big old computers in some overpriced post house…the writing is on the wall…in the same way the audio industry had to change, we will have to adapt. some one right now is recording a new hit album on an iPad using just garage band and the next big film might just be shot on an iPhone and finished on an iPad…it’s entirely possible and if you can’t see the potential then you will be in for a very rude awakening…..most television stations are struggling because of the internet. ad agencies will be the next to feel the pinch because demand for their services are dropping. and its the ad agencies that have paid the big bucks at the post houses in the past. a lot of film makers and directors who were considered “commercial guys” are now shooting doccies and features…..it’s all about how we can adapt to the change…

  • Herb Sevush

    September 14, 2011 at 10:01 pm

    “i’ve had to evolve after 30 years…”

    That was from a previous post. now I see you are up to 35 years of experience. That’s a lot of growth in the course of one day.

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions

  • Kim Krause

    September 14, 2011 at 10:07 pm

    thank you for saying so eloquently what i have been trying to communicate. i can’t believe all the reaction to this silly post since i put it out there. it all started with me playing around with splash top for iPad and seeing that in the not too far future it just might be possible to replace all your old technology with something a bit more streamlined and compact…or at least use it as an interface for a real edit suite somewhere on the cloud…remote access to clips that are stored somewhere else…i can’t believe how negative some of the responses have been..mostly from older established people who i believe feel threatened by the idea of too much change….i myself have had to adapt like crazy to survive…i haven’t touched a piece of film for almost 5 years and i haven’t worked in a telecine suite for just as long….i could see the changes coming and tried to be a step ahead of the curve and not complain when film was being passed over for digital formats. i got out there and embraced the change because i could see how nice it would be to not have to be tied to a post house and handle film all day. it took a long time to get to where i am today and i still hate that worry of where the next job will come from but i have totally accepted that change is good if you are open to the idea…..no i’m gonna head on down to the local coffee shop and do a bit of work on a series that i am grading for discovery channel…..

  • Kim Krause

    September 14, 2011 at 10:18 pm

    i started in the tape room when i was 19…i am now 55 so i guess technically that would be 35 years, 7 months 3 days and 6 hours ago! who gives a crap about the actual dates…i’m not so anal to keep track of all that but if you must know, i first started off in the tape room of a production house in toronto in 1976. within 1 year i was working in the telecine department and from then on i have just grown with whatever technology was introduced. we had one of the first ccd scanners and i had one of the early davincis as well. i can still remember that trip to florida meeting up with the guys there. i could see then where the industry was heading. i was one of the very first colorists in south africa to use apple color in my own place and have worked in over 4 countries in my career and am still very much active doing my own thing for some really great clients…guess what i’m really trying to say is i think i have earned the right to say whatever i feel like and could give a flying crap about what people think. all i really want people to realize is that the industry is once again changing and we all have to evolve and stop bitching about how things used to be and how we refuse to use such and such piece of software because it isn’t the same as it was…grow up or shut up!

  • Kim Krause

    September 14, 2011 at 10:23 pm

    thanks for calling me honey……it’s not everyday that i get such sweet terms of endearment thrown at me. i’ll just call you sweetie back…i hope you don’t mind some 55 year old guy calling you sweetie, as for me i prefer a slightly younger man….and why are talking about this anyway…..i can’t believe all the rage on this post about some silly comment i made about adapting to new ways of working and being open minded to change……what a bunch of grumpy old farts…..

  • Kim Krause

    September 14, 2011 at 10:33 pm

    thanks for calling me honey……it’s not everyday that i get such sweet terms of endearment thrown at me. i’ll just call you sweetie back…i hope you don’t mind some 55 year old guy calling you sweetie, as for me i prefer a slightly younger man….and why are talking about this anyway…..i can’t believe all the rage on this post about some silly comment i made about adapting to new ways of working and being open minded to change……what a bunch of grumpy old farts…..
    oh and actually i do have psychic powers but i only use them for the good of mankind…in fact around 10 years a go i was telling a client about a new way of working where you could just hook up your laptop to a firewire enabled camera and start editing video…he told me i was full of crap and went out and spent a ton of money on an avid system with a beta sp machine…1 year later and he told me he wished he had listened to me….another client of mine was starting up his own business a few years back and asked me if i he should go avid or FCP. i told him that i thought avid was a bad idea and he went out and bought a mac with FCP. 2 years later he bought 3 more systems and now 5 years later he is one of the busiest tv producers in the country employing around 50 people..during my last few years as a telecine colorist i can remember having a conversation that the film part of the industry might be in for a shake up and that it would be foolish to invest in more telecine equipment.the manager at the time thought i was crazy and went ahead and order a brand new spirit with all the bells and whistles and a davinci renaissance to go with it…a few years down the lone and they are all but bankrupt….so yeah, you might call me slightly psychic.

  • Kim Krause

    September 14, 2011 at 10:38 pm

    actually herb, i’m not much into drag…i would make a really ugly female…i was just making a joke about me being called a polly anna…she wore a little dress i believe and i thought the idea of me wearing one was quite funny……actually i did go to a dress up party once where the theme was retro disco or something and someone suggested getting punked out in eyeliner and makeup…..i scared myself because i looked like a really hard ass version of my sister! eeeekkkkk!!

  • Jamie Franklin

    September 15, 2011 at 2:03 am

    [kim krause] “the so called established people in the industry who feel threatened by new things”

    Get over yourself. A little late to the party.

    Find some original material

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