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  • Gary Hazen

    September 14, 2011 at 12:46 pm

    You’re right, the hipster is going to look really cool editing on his iPad at the coffee shop. The old fart will simply pick up his coffee and go home because he finished his edit hours ago.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    September 14, 2011 at 12:47 pm

    [TImothy Auld] “Paradox? Irony? Or”

    Defense mechanism

  • Kim Krause

    September 14, 2011 at 12:48 pm

    i don’t get your drift…he is an old fart…he told me so himself…i’m not criticizing him, just applying my perspective……anyone who can’t appreciate new ideas is an old fart…..it can be a term of endearment, something you might call your grandfather…like henry fonda and katherine hepburn in on golden pod when she called him an old poop…..they couldn’t say fart in those days because it was thought to be vulgar!

  • Kim Krause

    September 14, 2011 at 12:51 pm

    love it…i can just see the old man walking up the road with his cane in one hand and starbucks in the other…of course there is always the chance that the hipster has already finished and uploaded and the old timer might still be digitizing or rendering then trying to figure out how to upload to youtube…so he decided to take a coffee break…..hipster was able to do coffee and edit in one place! hmmmm makes ya think!

  • Timothy Auld

    September 14, 2011 at 12:56 pm

    Possibly, Jeremy. But that really wasn’t the phrase with which I would have replaced my ellipsis.

    bigpine

  • Herb Sevush

    September 14, 2011 at 2:01 pm

    This conversation reminds me of the story of the Old bull and the Young bull standing at the top of the hill. Looking at the heard of cows below the Young bull says “hey Pops, lets run down and screw one of them cows.” to which the Old bull replies “No, lets walk down and screw them all.”

    I’m sure that Kim does look great in her dress and that David is truly an old fart, so let’s hear it for both of them.

    This from an older fart, who thinks an Ipad’s screen and keypad way too small for cutting video that is going to be looked at on 42″ plasmas. Plus I think Starbucks has the most overrated coffee in the world and I’d rather work in a Dunkin’ Donuts than drink their overpriced swill.

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions

  • Gary Hazen

    September 14, 2011 at 4:31 pm

    [kim krause] “hipster was able to do coffee and edit in one place! hmmmm makes ya think!”

    How would the hipster handle color grading on an iPad ?

    He wouldn’t use a workstation, a control surface, real time waveform/vector scopes or a broadcast monitor because those are old school tools reserved for the dinosaurs.

  • Chris Harlan

    September 14, 2011 at 4:59 pm

    [Dave LaRonde] “You want to imagine doing your next show for the Discovery Channel on an iPad? Fine. “

    iPad has its uses. I can see building an offline sellects reel on it, if I could ever get a useful edlxml off of it. But nothing much more than that. Too small a screen, with my hands too much in the way. The novelty of working that way with any other kind of editorial would wear off very fast. In fact, I have to say–having had an iPad since the beginning–the novelty DOES wear off. I wouldn’t be surprised if the surge in pads drops off in the next few years as they find there place.

    Right now, the best thing the iPad does is make for a good controller. It has good virtual mixers that work well with FCP 7, Logic and Protools. Also, I’ve got several interesting controllers for Omnisphere. It is also good for carrying around portfolio work, and to review sellects on the go. If they could get FCP X to work on an iPad AND export edls/xmls, It would be worth $300 to carry it around on an iPad as a video notation/sellects-creation tool.

  • Chris Harlan

    September 14, 2011 at 6:59 pm

    [Chris Harlan] ” It would be worth $300 to carry it around on an iPad as a video notation/sellects-creation tool.”

    Actually, the more I think about this, the more I wonder if I wouldn’t rather have my NLE-lite on something like a MBook Air.

  • Bill Davis

    September 14, 2011 at 7:57 pm

    Herb,

    You might find it interesting that the word “coffee” never even appeared in the original Starbucks business plan.

    Starbucks has never been – even from the very beginning – about coffee.

    IIRC the first line of the original Starbucks business plan started with something like “It will be a place that is not work, not home, but a neutral meeting place…” or something to that effect.

    It was about a piece of real estate that a more mobile population could use as a meeting place to socialize with, transact business with, and generally have a place to go out of the house in an era where mobility was on the rise and “the office” was something that whole classes of business people like realtors, construction workers, and yes, creatives didn’t have access to while during the business day.

    This, I think, is a precise parallel to the astonishingly persistent confusion about FCP’s business plan.

    Many, many people keep trying to shoehorn it’s capabilities into what editing USED to be. Just as a coffee shop used to be about the standard food service industry model. With that, the original concept was to move dining from home to a commercial space. In a “restaurant” the kitchen was bigger, the choices more varied, and the infa-structure necessary to prepare and serve food, designed to be superior to that people could expect at home.

    It wasn’t until the Starbucks people understood that the entire GAME had changed, and that what people needed wasn’t a coffee shop with a big kitchen and wait staff – but rather a neutral territory in which to temporarily sit and study/work/meet that the new business paradigm started to evolve.

    If Apple is correct in the long range – what people won’t need so much in the future – is a “hardware suite” centric model of content creation – essentially the old “on-line” television station model. But rather mobile, agile tools that do a selected subset of the functions of the big suite – in a smaller, simpler, more agile form factor – precisely the relationship of a Starbucks to a old style coffee shop.

    If you had tried to to argue that Starbucks was destined to fail simply because it was not Dennys – you would have totally missed the point of why it prevailed.

    They succeeded (wildly I might add) precisely because they understood that the larger game (human mobility) was changing – not because they concentrated on making a “better” restaurant.

    Worth thinking about anyway.

    “Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Connor

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