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Aindreas Gallagher
April 4, 2013 at 5:54 pmhey – just to add, I am in no way dissing that dude – his stuff looks incredible –
I just wanted to make a snarky comparison between PPro and the Coen brothers and FCPX and a canadian newspaper, thats pretty hard to resist.
– I’m fairly sure I didn’t mention that dude at all.A
https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics
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David Cherniack
April 4, 2013 at 6:10 pm[tony west] “The amount of respect they get”
Tony, I think you might keep in mind that Apple did a lot of hurt to a huge number of people with the way they released X. In clear terms it showed no respect for their editing community so to ask many in that community to have respect for X may be asking too much. I think it will take a lot of water under the bridge and a lot of fantastic things in X, for most of those people to forget what was done to them, if they ever can. I remember what Autodesk did to edit* users more than 10 years ago. The new Smoke may be a great product but it would have to leap tall buildings at a single bound while singing praises to Buddha, before I’d glance at it sideways. And I’m a forgiving person…but of people…companies who screw their customers, not so much. So Apple may have done themselves irreparable harm in the NLE field. You can’t leave a bad taste in most people’s mouths and expect them to happily taste your next meal.
Anyway that’s my perspective on it, FWIW.
David
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Sandeep Sajeev
April 4, 2013 at 6:18 pmnice little kick in the nuts for FCPX on the day the Coen brothers announce for PPro is all.
Ha!
Nice to see Premiere looking so good. This new release really seems to have got a lot of the things that put me off when I was looking for FCP 7 alternatives, right.
The C4D integration will be a kick in the gut for Autodesk – Full 3D app, 3D Camera Tracker, next gen Roto ? Smoke needs to step up.
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Charlie Austin
April 4, 2013 at 6:30 pm[Chris Harlan] “Does this have something to do with the “Cold Mountain moment” meme? Whoa–look at the Coen Bros. using Pr, but nobody’s all who-ha about X and these guys? I think the whole “Cold Mountain” thing as a mark of “software on the rise to some sort of heavenly dominance” is a little over-done.”
Agreed. However, I do think that there is a not so subtle undertone of condescension from some of the voices in these new “Premiere Pro or Not: the Foregone Conclusion” threads. 😉
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Aindreas Gallagher
April 4, 2013 at 6:32 pmyeah, after effects is just a beast at this point.
And stuff like the 3D camera tracker – I mean that thing just works. Seriously powerful and it took me ten minutes to figure out how to use it.
The AE team is monstering it the last few releases.https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics
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Aindreas Gallagher
April 4, 2013 at 6:36 pmhey hey come on – I respect Canadian newspapers as much as the next man.
I think its great that FCPX is carving out a new role there. In canadian newspapers.
https://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mduzh2pot41rxmai6o1_500.gif
https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics
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Charlie Austin
April 4, 2013 at 6:57 pm[Aindreas Gallagher] “hey hey come on – I respect Canadian newspapers as much as the next man.
I think its great that FCPX is carving out a new role there. In canadian newspapers.
“Speaking of newspapers and Canadians…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTjJTsrglDA
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Chris Harlan
April 4, 2013 at 6:58 pm[Charlie Austin] “I do think that there is a not so subtle undertone of condescension from some of the voices in these new “Premiere Pro or Not: the Foregone Conclusion” threads”
Undertones of condescension? No, it’s pure raucous gloating. Don’t mess with the honey badger. Smiley emoticon goes here.
But, that’s today. Yesterday was all about how X had reached its tipping point. Tomorrow is about how Avid… Well, actually nobody is going to say anything about Avid tomorrow (other than Craig detailing another lawsuit) and yet, weirdly, its the only one of these NLEs I’m going to get certification on. Go figure.
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Charlie Austin
April 4, 2013 at 6:59 pm[Chris Harlan] “Undertones of condescension? No, it’s pure raucous gloating. Don’t mess with the honey badger. Smiley emoticon goes here.
But, that’s today. Yesterday was all about how X had reached its tipping point. Tomorrow is about how Avid… Well, actually nobody is going to say anything about Avid tomorrow (other than Craig detailing another lawsuit) and yet, weirdly, its the only one of these NLEs I’m going to get certification on. Go figure.”
lol… True.
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Dennis Radeke
April 4, 2013 at 7:41 pm[Steve Connor] “when some of Adobe’s new features are just playing catchup with FCP7/X”
Steve, to be completely fair, I would argue that every NLE has ‘caught up’ with some features to every other NLE that’s out there. Great ideas do not work in a vacuum or at a single place. Case in point – Apple’s skimming feature and Adobe’s hover scrub feature. Pretty similar idea but coming at the same time from different companies.
Also, I’m proud to say that FCP/X has caught up to Premiere Pro and every other NLE by adding a source monitor…Teasing!
Dennis – Adobe guy
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