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Steve Connor
April 4, 2013 at 7:44 pm[Dennis Radeke] “Steve, to be completely fair, I would argue that every NLE has ‘caught up’ with some features to every other NLE that’s out there. Great ideas do not work in a vacuum or at a single place.”
Of course that is true, I’m just responding to the comment that FCPX is years behind. It’s great for all of us that Adobe are taking ever bigger strides forward, now tell us when it’s released!
I know, you have to save something for NAB
Steve Connor
There’s nothing we can’t argue about on the FCPX COW Forum
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Tony West
April 4, 2013 at 7:54 pm[Chris Harlan] “Does this have something to do with the “Cold Mountain moment” meme?”
No, it’s not really about the type of movies they make.
It’s more about the level of production value and budget.
They do Top end films
Many have questioned if X could be used on that level.
That question should be answered by those two.
Unless……….they are seen by some as some what second level. If that is the case…..why is that?
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Marcus Moore
April 4, 2013 at 8:11 pmSo there’s only one workflow and one type customers that’s worth talking about?
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Aindreas Gallagher
April 4, 2013 at 8:15 pmto be fair Tony – its not exactly clear from the description what role FCPX is playing in the upcoming production – also I don’t think he has any films in the can cut on it or does he? I only read it the once actually. I thought the idea was that he was working it on on his current project.
https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics
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Andrew Kimery
April 4, 2013 at 8:19 pm[tony west] “Unless……….they are seen by some as some what second level. If that is the case…..why is that?”
I think someone else already mentioned it’s basically about notoriety in a West-centric industry on a West-centric forum. It’s not about talent level any more than saying Wayne Rooney is a second rate talent because in America he would be a less effective pitchman than Peyton Manning.
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Aindreas Gallagher
April 4, 2013 at 8:22 pmAbsolutely not Marcus – Canadian newspapers, belgian trade magazines, why they need a short form rough cut editing system as much as the Coen brothers need to express the highest level of the editing art. In Premiere Pro.
But the point is FCPX is right there – on point and ready to go. for that canadian newspaper.
https://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mduzh2pot41rxmai6o1_500.gif
https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics
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Tony West
April 4, 2013 at 8:33 pm“the director recently took another step back to the future with Young Detective Dee: Rise of the Sea Dragon, a highly anticipated prequel shot with state-of-the-art 3D cameras and edited in Final Cut Pro X.”
Am I missing it?
“I asked Tsui if he liked the new version and wanted to continue the project with it. He said yes, and at that point we completely migrated the movie to Final Cut Pro X.”
I don’t know, seems pretty clear to me.
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Chris Harlan
April 4, 2013 at 8:33 pm[tony west] “No, it’s not really about the type of movies they make.
It’s more about the level of production value and budget.
They do Top end films
Many have questioned if X could be used on that level.
That question should be answered by those two.
Unless……….they are seen by some as some what second level. If that is the case…..why is that?
“First, I don’t think the question is, anymore, CAN X do something; I think it is now, do you WANT to use X to do something. For the record, I have absolutely no doubt that it would be far easier to do a film the size of Cold Mountain on the current version of X, then it was at the time it was cut on FCP. Second, it is a matter of proximity–for me, at least–and not second level or second tier work. I work in LA. The Coen Bros. are much closer to my ecosystem than anyone in the Hong Kong film world, and the choices that they make may have some more immediate effect on my own work. If Warner Bros. announced tomorrow that they were going all X, I would be too. Immediately. Without question, I would drop everything and would be running X tutorials like mad. I work in an environment where I have freedom to choose much of what I want, but also have to pay serious heed to what others are doing. There is a bit of a flock or herd element to all of this.
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Franz Bieberkopf
April 4, 2013 at 8:41 pm[Chris Harlan] “I have absolutely no doubt that it would be far easier to do a film the size of Cold Mountain on the current version of X, then it was at the time it was cut on FCP”
Chris,
Easier in what way?
Franz.
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Tony West
April 4, 2013 at 8:48 pm[David Cherniack] “to ask many in that community to have respect for X may be asking too much.”
I wasn’t really asking about respect for X
I was asking about respect for Hark and Yu
I was wondering if their opinions carried much weight and if not, why not?
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