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SONY PVM-1354Q CRT NTSC Monitor Vs. Sony LMD1420 Luma LCD Monitor
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good to know, thanks patrick! was wondering if there is a way to view dvcprohd footage on my powerbook and a pvm-14L5? is there such a cable as a dvi to component cable or am i pretty much stuck w/ a powermac g5 and a aja/decklink card? any solution for powerbook users out in the field? thanks.
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Well, I don’t know. I’ll go out on a limb and dispute what patrick is saying. 720p footage looks pretty damn good on the 20L5, better than anything I’ve seen for the price and definitely above and beyond plain old NTSC. To use the term underwhelming, is well, very underwhelming. It is kinda crazy how fast you get used to it though. Maybe you’re just used to it Patrick and the honeymoon’s over.
I’d like to see Panasonic’s LCD in person, but I still do too much SD work to go LCD. The 20L5/1 is prefect for me for now.
AS far as monitoring through a powerbook, that’s easy. Buy a $30000 fully populated DVCPROHD deck and hook that up to your 14L5/1.
Easy, right? 😉
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[jaser] “does the pvm14L5/1 support 24 frames progressive through component?”
Yes, but good luck trying to find a 20″ model. We tried about 3 or 4 months ago and gave up, the 14″ is the only thing still left in new stock.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.comDirector, “The Rough Cut”
https://www.theroughcutmovie.comNow Posting “Good Eats” in HD for the Food Network
“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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[Patrick Inhofer] “Progressive footage is completely underwhelming. It looks SD. There’s no pop to the image. And while not fuzzy, it’s not as crisp and defined as I’d expect. This isn’t entirely surprising given it’s a CRT designed specifically for interlaced footage. Progressive is best watched on a true progressive display.”
I have to disagree with that statement as I’m cutting 720p all day on our PVM-20L5/1 and it’s sharp as can be. 24p, 30p, 60p all look sharp and crisp on that monitor.
I can’t say it’s underwhelming at all. Well, maybe compared to the 50″ Professional Panasonic Plasma display, sure, but for HD monitoring and color correction, the PVML5/1 is an outstanding display for progressive HD material.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.comDirector, “The Rough Cut”
https://www.theroughcutmovie.comNow Posting “Good Eats” in HD for the Food Network
“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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[JeremyG] “720p footage looks pretty damn good on the 20L5, better than anything I’ve seen for the price and definitely above and beyond plain old NTSC. To use the term underwhelming, is well, very underwhelming.”
If you’re saying that 720p looks as good as 1080i on a 20L5…
Well then we’ll have to agree to disagree.
If you’re saying considering the price of the monitor it looks pretty good – I’d agree.
But after evaluating 1080i and then pulling up 720p – I stick by my evaluation; underwhelming. Not bad, just not as good as interlaced HD.
That’s my story and I’m sticking to it!
Patrick Inhofer
editor, compositor, nice guy
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[walter biscardi] “The only LCD’s you can use for critical color correction are in the $20k – $30k range right now”
Well, you can actually get one for under $20k. eCinemas has a 23″ display that lists for about $16,500.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.comDirector, “The Rough Cut”
https://www.theroughcutmovie.comNow Posting “Good Eats” in HD for the Food Network
“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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[Patrick Inhofer] “If you’re saying that 720p looks as good as 1080i on a 20L5…
Well then we’ll have to agree to disagree.”
Sounds like we have opened another can of worms which is 1080 vs 720, not progressive vs interlaced. 1080 has more resolution than 720, of course it’s going to look different. 720p has it’s look, 1080i has it’s look. You obviously like 1080, so be it. The point I’m trying to make is that progressive footage does not look underwhelming on a 20L5/1, it is very misleading.
Jeremy
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Jeremy, et al.,
I am wondering a couple of things about this. I have a PVM-14L5/1, connected via a Decklink Pro (SD) card.
To properly view, say something using DVC Pro 50 or DVC Pro HD (I know these may have different requirements), would you need to output via an HD card, like the Kona 2/3 or Decklink HD? I would guess that those cards are converting to analog and sending that signal to the monitor?
If you are using an HD card with HD-SDI outputs, and you add the HD-SDI card to the Sony monitor ($1500), would you get better results for previewing HD footage? Would this apply equally to both interlaced and progressive HD footage?
My principal interest is accurate monitoring of HD footage (not uncompressed) for color correction. I wonder if just using a Kona 2/3 card would be enough, or if I should also get the HD-SDI card for the Sony monitor?
Thanks.
-Dave
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I do not have the HD SDI card for my monitor and I do just fine with my monitoring. I had a rental until onsite once with both the HD-SDI card installed and I could not tell a lick of difference between HD-SDI and component, not enough to justify the expense of that HD-SDI card. The Kona2/3 will handle this just fine in both HD and SD (DV50) formats. I do not think it’s worth the money, unless you need to component outs for something else, then it might be. That really depends on your setup.
Jeremy
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Jeremy and I may not agree to disagree on other things…
But on this I’m with him – save your money. The component inputs are plenty good.
– pi
Patrick Inhofer
editor, compositor, nice guy
Fini, nyc
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