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  • SONY PVM-1354Q CRT NTSC Monitor Vs. Sony LMD1420 Luma LCD Monitor

    Posted by Pierre on February 22, 2006 at 2:16 am

    I’m about to purchase my first “real” NTSC monitor and need some advice on which way to go. Currently I’m looking at two different models.

    1. SONY PVM-1354Q CRT (Just Professionally Calibrated) $1200
    This is a 13″ color NTSC monitor of the “engineering” grade. Used but guaranteed in perfect working condition by a local and reputable dealer.

    2. Sony LMD1240 Luma LCD Monitor. (New $1399) This is LCD.

    For now I’m working primarily in standard definition, both 4:3 and 16:9, but will be working in HDV and HD more in the near future. I do some “color correction” and/or “Color treatment” within Final Cut Pro in unison with another program, so color reproduction/monitoring is important to me. I had previously been using a 13″ Sony Television… but I could NEVER tell how it was going to turn out. My work always looked totally different on every monitor. I’m through with that way!

    Now that I’ve made the decision to buy I just want to make sure it

    Jeremy Garchow replied 20 years, 2 months ago 8 Members · 32 Replies
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    February 22, 2006 at 2:38 am

    [Michael Pierre] “but I could NEVER tell how it was going to turn out. My work always looked totally different on every monitor. I’m through with that way!”

    That will NEVER change with SD.

    It has been thus since NTSC color began.

    In the studio, we had entire WALLS full of monitors.
    Clients would say, “Which one do I look at? I like the way it looks on THAT one.”
    I’d say, “Look at THAT one, because it only looks that way on that monitor.”

    Of course YOU want to CREATE on a monitor that is fully set-up and calibrated so that you KNOW that the image is correct, based on a “standard”…
    but after it “leaves your hands” it can be viewed on “ANY OLD THING” and who knows how it will look then?

    And, unless you can spend BIG BUCKS for a true “critical control-room” flat-screen, CRT monitors are STILL offer the truest image for color grading.

  • Walter Biscardi

    February 22, 2006 at 2:45 am

    The only LCD’s you can use for critical color correction are in the $20k – $30k range right now so the Sony LCD in your post is out. Go with the CRT.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    https://www.biscardicreative.com

    Director, “The Rough Cut”
    https://www.theroughcutmovie.com

    Now Posting “Good Eats” in HD for the Food Network

    “I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters

  • Jeremy Garchow

    February 22, 2006 at 2:50 am

    https://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=262238&is=REG&addedTroughType=categoryNavigation

    It’s only 14″ but it’ll handle analog component SD and HD. If you can find it’s 20″ big brother, go for it but those are hard to find these days.

    Jeremy

  • Patrick Inhofer

    February 22, 2006 at 2:56 am

    For interlaced images, a CRT is the way to go.

    BTW, the PVM series is not the high-end “engineering grade” series of Sony CRTs, those would be the BVM series.

    Check out the prices for your monitor at the Broadcast Store.

    Unless that PVM has an SDI card, the price is high. Unless you need the SDI option, you might be able to get more monitor for your money.

    – pi

    Patrick Inhofer
    editor, compositor, nice guy
    Fini, nyc

  • Walter Biscardi

    February 22, 2006 at 3:11 am

    [Patrick Inhofer] “BTW, the PVM series is not the high-end “engineering grade” series of Sony CRTs, those would be the BVM series.”

    Actually the PVM are the “high-end” engineering grade monitors. The BVM’s are the high end broadcast grade monitors, though you’ll find the PVM’s in many broadcast and high end post houses as they are excellent for color correction.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    https://www.biscardicreative.com

    Director, “The Rough Cut”
    https://www.theroughcutmovie.com

    Now Posting “Good Eats” in HD for the Food Network

    “I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters

  • Patrick Inhofer

    February 22, 2006 at 3:46 am

    Walter,

    Broadcast quality is higher than Engineering quality…

    Check.

    I just wanted to be sure he understood the PVM series isn’t the high-end series of Sony monitors.

    And as a user of a PVM-20L5 I can testify it’s a great and versatile finishing monitor. Too bad they’ve been discontinued.

    – pi

    Patrick Inhofer
    editor, compositor, nice guy
    Fini, nyc

  • Pierre

    February 22, 2006 at 4:08 am

    Thanks everyone.
    Ok so the LCD is out of the question.
    I’m sold on the PVM series.

    Now one last question if you please!

    Between these two Sony PVM series CRT monitors which one would you guys go with?

    1. (The used one I mentioned before), SONY PVM-1354Q CRT NTSC – $1,200 used

    https://cgi.ebay.com/SONY-PVM-1354Q-NTSC-PAL-COLOR-VIDEO-EDIT-MONITOR-W-16-9_W0QQitemZ7590347544QQcategoryZ21517QQcmdZViewItem

    or

    2. Sony PVM-14L5 – NEW from B&H for $1,500 dollars.

    https://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=262238&is=REG&addedTroughType=categoryNavigation

    What is the quality difference between the two monitors. Which one will serve me better for the next few years?

    Thank you,

    Michael

  • Jeremy Garchow

    February 22, 2006 at 4:21 am

    Go with 14L5/1. It will also handle HD with no extra cards, inputs, or upgrades. Plus, it’s new. This monitor will serve you well into your coming HD years. If you get the other one, then you are going to need to have to get another monitor for HD when that time comes. See if you can find a 20L5/1 used somewhere as the extra screen real estate is nice.

    Jeremy

  • Pierre

    February 22, 2006 at 4:33 am

    I just realized that the Sony 14L5 doesn’t seem to have 16:9? The other one does… why is this?
    I need the 16:9 option. Any fixes?

  • Pierre

    February 22, 2006 at 4:38 am

    Edit from previous post:

    ooops. I see that the 14L5 does indeed do 16:9.

    Wonder how it handles Progressive? 720P or 1080p @ 24fps?

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