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  • Sonic ReelDVD or DVDA3

    Posted by Seth Hancock on June 2, 2005 at 6:57 am

    I have used DVDA to master my DVDs for some time now but have always felt like certain things were missing like animating buttons, having more flexibility with the menus, etc. I started researching Sonic ReelDVD but was curious as to whether it is a better investment than DVDA3. I have used DVDA2 but am wondering if I should spend the extra money for version 3 or just buy the Sonic program. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

    Seth

    wordtoyomutha

    Terje A. bergesen replied 20 years, 11 months ago 5 Members · 6 Replies
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  • Gary Kleiner

    June 2, 2005 at 7:10 am

    [adguy31] “certain things were missing like animating buttons”

    DVDA has had animated buttons since version 1 (video playing on the button).
    Is that what you mean?

    Gary Kleiner
    Vegas Training and Tools.com

  • Richard Bartlett

    June 2, 2005 at 11:13 am

    “mouse-over” animated buttons are also possible I think with DVDA3. Perhaps you have to think more out of the box to do what the full suite of a Scenarist can do. It can be quite arduous having to repeat the same menu with each and every possible navigation position and press-play action. However if you make it into your own template, the skeleton is probably something you can adjust when you want it again.

    As I learnt from Oscar with his DVDLab product. You can do some fancy things if you just think outside the limits of the basic building blocks. Thus animation and kiosk like or even Flash! like user control environments can be created in DVDA3. A film strip that is animated and jogs along as you go left and right through the chapter points. The highlight that shows where you are can even be enhanced beyond the limitation of the DVD-Video format. You can even put a combination lock on the front end of the video for your viewer to have to enter the correct series of digits on to play the video that is for them to see or not to see.

    DVD authoring and how creative it can be reminds me of the (8bit 1980s)home computers of yesteryear. Or perhaps how a web page can look amateur or professional depending on who is behind the controls.

    It is nice to expect Sony to make things easier for us at each revision of Architect. However it is also nice to have a DVD looking like no other. I feel more empowered using Architect than I have done with any other tool that I’ve bought or tested for DVD creation. YMMV

  • Seth Hancock

    June 2, 2005 at 4:44 pm

    I should have been a little more clear about my concerns or request. I am looking to create an interactive DVD like the old game Dragon’s Lair where the person watching can affect the outcome of what is being watched, I want multple audio and video tracks and to see what I have created in a schematic view. I don’t have a problem thinking outside of the box to create something visually stimulating but I was wondering what DVD Authoring Software will give me the most flexibility. Thanks for your help.

    Seth

    wordtoyomutha

  • Richard Bartlett

    June 2, 2005 at 8:37 pm

    I did buy Dragon’s Lair in the DVD-Video format. It was fairly dodgy for how well the interactivity worked with some DVD players. Early Samsung (pre DVD-Forum signing) and Toshiba players were a no-no due to waiting for some menu state to occur before accepting input from the controller.

    That aside, I think DVD Architect would be labour intensive for writing a video game upon. Once done though, the workflow you’d have could be re-used with a similar game.

    I’d tend towards using DVDLabPro for your task. Much more in the way of tunable elements and debug tools in there. I don’t think ReelDVD would be up to this task. DVDJr might have been in its day. Otherwise, full Scenarist or Maestro or a Mac authoring tool.

    Dragon’s Lair at least had the benefit of a fairly slack interface based on the laserdisc of the day and also the lower expectations of 1980s video gamers. However I don’t doubt something fantastic could be made on DVDR using a PC based authoring tool.

    Watch out for Windows Longhorn or Office2006 (or whatever either are/become) the word is that Microsoft will do for DVD authoring what FrontPage did for web content creation. ie Make it a bit painful but multi-faceted and quite thoroughly implemented. Thus these facets should permit a programming strategy to your work.

    If you can get hold of ReelDVD, DWS2 and DVDA3 demo versions, I’d consider you try each before purchasing. Test your workflow for your specific need. The user operation control seems to be there in DVDA3, just that I wouldn’t like to be the one that encourages you wholeheartedly down that route. I would say that the flipping between the authoring environment and the testing environment, whilst functional would be somewhat unsatisfying with a menu or clip that needed significant branch testing.

    It is unfortunate that the XML interface to themes doesn’t cover all elements of scripting otherwise you’d be able to use that as your development environment. Unless I’ve misread what DVDA3 brings…. ?

    I’d be prepared to do quiz questions using DVDA, but I wouldn’t want to pilot in 3D through an asteroid belt using my remote control on my DVD-Video player! 😉

  • Edward Troxel

    June 2, 2005 at 9:02 pm

    It really depends on what you’re wanting to do. If you have a story and then present three options, they follow an option and you present three more options, etc… then, yes, DVDA3 could do that. It would take a TON of planning on your part, though.

    If you’re asking if you can set the various registers that affect the underlying programming then, no, DVDA3 cannot do that.

    Edward Troxel
    JETDV Scripts

  • Terje A. bergesen

    June 3, 2005 at 10:07 pm

    I moved from the Ulead world to Vegas a couple of months back, not looking back at all for video editing. For DVD editing on the other hand, I am sticking with Ulead DVD Workshop. The way you can add play-lists to menus etc is very flexible indeed.

    Some of it’s power is hidden in it’s “user friendly” interface, but I have yet to come across better DVD authoring in this price class. It’s only flaw right now is that creating 16:9 menus is cumbersome (need a messy work-around). I expect this will change soon enough.

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