Some thoughts on the FCPX Forum

[Walter Soyka]

[Craig Seeman] “I really think, as time passes, this forum might get beyond just FCPX and become a discussion of “industry trends.” I would love to see the divergent analysis whether Apple or HP, etc and how that might impact our purchasing decisions with software and hardware tools. It could help anyone ranging from a single system purchase to a facility manager trying to asses the market.”

Agreed, this would be a great direction for this forum to take!

Walter Soyka
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[Daniel Frome]

Frequent lurker here. I don’t wish to get entangled in a long forum battle and that’s why I mostly remain quiet, but since you are speaking apparently on behalf of regular users (which includes me) I’ll share my opinion on the matter.

– Yep, a lot of people bash FCPX in this forum. However, no, I don’t think they should be told to head for the nearest exit. Even through some personal attacks the resulting information is valuable. I value it, at least.

– The ‘controversy’ definitely doesn’t drop the forum visits. On the contrary — it keeps people like me coming back to check in.

– In general I see you’re tired of people ‘venting’ their negative thoughts on FCPX. Down the at the office (ie. the studio I work at) all the FCPX hate died off about a month ago. We basically moved on with our lives and so I somewhat see your point. Funny side note: Only one of our editors (who hadn’t participated in the water cooler talk) came into my office last week and, I paraphrase, “Holy crap… so apple is actually killing off their pro lineup.. I mean, this isn’t even a pro software anymore, no wonder you guys are doing those avid tutorials at lunch.” 😉

Anyway — I think we’re gong to have to tolerate each other for a while to come. I may not use FCPX, but that doesn’t mean I stop visiting and maybe commenting here or there. I still consider “Final Cut” a part of my job and have a certain attachment to the brand – as do all the other ‘FCPX haters’ I am sure. That’s the reason they keep chiming in. Love-Hate relationship, etc. As for the people who just want to get on with FCPX and learn it… unfortunately you’re like the kid in a bad divorce, and it’ll stay that way for at least a few months to come.

[Jeremy Garchow]

[TImothy Auld] “I did not say I was shocked. I said Apple’s silence spoke volumes. And it does.”

And my point is they are the most vocal I’ve seen since they dropped out of showing at NAB.

So, we disagree.

[Timothy Auld]

So we do. That’s life. Someone once said what a shock it is when intelligent people are presented with the same set of facts and come to very different conclusions. Whether or not we disagree on this or anything else I respect your point of view and find that your posts are well thought out and usually contain very useful information. So there.

bigpine

[Jeremy Garchow]

[TImothy Auld] “Someone once said what a shock it is when intelligent people are presented with the same set of facts and come to very different conclusions. “

I think you are assuming my intelligence. I just play one on TV. 🙂

Thanks, Tim.

Jeremy

[Timothy Auld]

And here I thought is was my own intelligence I was assuming.

bigpine

[Gary Huff]

“Glee club” was name calling? I guess you hate glee clubs then.

I think you are stretching the definition of name calling there, Craig.

[Craig Seeman]

It’s not the kind of comment I’d using talking to clients or co-workers and that’s the standard I’d use in a place where professionals converse.

[Gary Huff]

So that’s your own opinion.

And I’ve had clients make much more disparaging remarks against whatever in the industry they don’t like than the term “glee club.”

How thick is your skin, Craig? Doesn’t seem like a lot.

[Craig Seeman]

[Gary Huff] “How thick is your skin, Craig? Doesn’t seem like a lot.”

At the water-cooler is one thing. In a meeting room I hope for a certain amount of decorum. Those are my personal expectations. Given a forum is a public place with many onlookers I’m mindful of the words I choose and I’d hope and expect others to be as well.