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Some thoughts on the FCPX Forum
Some thought from an e-mail I have recently sent to Ronald Lindeboom
“Firstly let me say I love the COW, the FCP forum in particular has been a bedrock of advice for me and thousands of others since the early days of FCP, it introduced me to the COW and hopefully I have been a reasonably valuable member of the community.
However I believe the FCPX forum may not be able to achieve the same level of help and community that the other forums on the COW have achieved, I also believe it may now be putting off potential new users of the community.
The FCPX launch was a debacle clearly, you did exactly the right thing in letting people vent their anger on the forum and splitting off the techniques forum for those who wanted more constructive discussions on the software. However, the software is out there and people still naturally gravitate to the main FCPX forum as opposed to the techniques forum and more queries are appearing there every day.
There are now a few people who are jumping onto almost every thread to add their dislike of the software and in some cases belittle those of us who choose to use it, calling them “Youtubers etc” I believe this is putting new FCPX users off using the forum, in fact some of the responses appear astonishingly elitist. If I was a young editor using FCPX, I don’t think I would have had the confidence to ask questions on the forum at the moment
I also find it strange that many of the forum leaders don’t use the software and do not plan to. I find this part to be the saddest as many of these people have been incredibly helpful to myself and thousands of others on the FCP forum, I understand their bitterness but I don’t understand why, two months later they still feel the need to vent on the forum.
I also understand that discussion here on the COW should never be stifled, but some of the posts are not discussion they are simply people forcing their opinions on posters who never asked for it. I also think much of it is contrary to the spirit of the COW
I would love the FCPX forum to give the same level of help and support that the FCP forum has, and as an FCPX user I would love to contribute, however I feel at the moment, if it continues on it’s current path, it may fail and other forums, who have contained the behaviour I am concerned about, will benefit.”
Steve Connor
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Thank you for that post. I know of no other COW forum where so many faces on top either don’t use, don’t like, aren’t interested in helping users of the software except to the extent they can discourage people.
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Perhaps I am wrong but my perception about this particular forum is that, since June 21, it was a place for people to post opinions about how X works, whether or not it works for them, if they like the way it works or not, and to voice frustrations about it. And that is what people have been doing here. There are a few exceptions on both sides who flog their blind loyalty to one thing and another, but for the most part what I see on this forum is healthy discussion that could only help to speed improvements to FCP X, if that it is indeed Apple’s intention. That is I believe why the Cow started another forum for FCP X techniques which from my reading gets a lot of traffic with people posting problems and getting excellent feedback from the Cow community.
bigpine
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Steve, I’ve personally largely tailed from the heights of my ranting, but it is noticeable with you buddy, that when people are venting criticisms you jump in railing like hell about their negativity and asking why don’t they just move on. Couching it now in terms of – how dare you you’re damaging the forum and I’m going to speak to Ron about you.. Who are you Steve? You’re just another user of this forum. You are nothing more. I count three people on top of that board who are strong proponents of the software and Simon ubsdell is in and out too.
It’s not your place to start shouting at everyone and wailing at the higher ups because this forum is not the way you want it. The bent of it’s conversation is derived from controversy over the software. Its notable that over the last fortnight it’s been dying down and tech questions are coming in. Your contention, steve, that more normal queries are being jumped on by some anti-FCPX wing is total and utter bull.
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Plus 1 Jeremy.
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Remember when the FCPX Techniques forum was created?
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Seriously, it’s like the “White Night” syndrome, but with a piece of broken software.
Sheesh.
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Well I guess the forum name has now been changed so this is now officially the place to go to hash it out. You mentioned that a few of the forums leaders were not X users but I’d guess ALL are FCP users. And many of us here have been on this FCP train for a while so it was a bit of a shock to see Apple do a complete 180 on the path they’ve been on for the last 10 years.
Also some here have a knack for ranting so it was fun to read some of the posts but I think a lot of people are just trying to feel this thing out and there needed to be a place for people to post their reactions so editors could get a pulse on how Apple’s move would affect their businesses and skills etc. or if anybody was taking X seriously or not. I also think this debate is healthy for X users too as if some are new to editing and have aspirations of becoming a professional some day then they can have more info to see if X is the route they want to go or not.
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This particular forum is definitely doomed 🙂 it will likely be deleted around the end of the year and the techniques forum will be renamed the FCPX forum.
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David A Fenton
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