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Seems adobe have released everything BUT what we all need
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Marisu,
[marisu fronc] “This is true, but NOT on the same track – you need to specify if you want a mono or a stereo track, if you aren’t careful you can get things you want together all higgledy-piggeldy across them – or tracks stacked in an order that is confusing at best (especially if you regularly with with an audio sweetener who is used to a certain layout (ie: VO on ch 1, interviews ch2, sync ch3, sfx ch 4-6 and music ch 7 & 8). Certainly not a BIG deal, but I’d love to be able to reorder the audio tracks once on the TL, and I’d REALLY love to be able to put mono and stereo clips on the same track fi they are the same TYPE of thing (sync for example).”
I see what you mean. Bigger changes needed than I thought.
Ron
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hello people,
under nda, so cant say anything other than…
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Aanarav-
[Aanarav Sareen] “setting up an editing station is not the cheapest thing on earth.”
Not to disagree that, for many people, $3k is a huge expense – but I think you are failing to realize that it is a MICRO drop in the bucket compared to the cost of even one BetaSP deck – I think our 4 seats of Premiere, with computers and the 4TB fibrechannel SAN still cost less that we initially paid for a single channel of ADO.
For many people cost is NOT the most important factor, and no matter how appealing on the surface, sticking with an application that doesn’t meet your needs well is always more costly in the long run.
slainte,
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[marisu fronc] “For many people cost is NOT the most important factor, and no matter how appealing on the surface, sticking with an application that doesn’t meet your needs well is always more costly in the long run.”
I agree.
But, again: If Premiere Pro 1.5 is stopping you from doing your work, why do people still have it on their systems and how can you assume that they will be in the next version? Complaining about a non-existant release with “unknown features” is not the smartest idea. And always, submit feature requests on Adobe’s sites. They do look into those carefully. I am not arguing, that there are some functions missing in Premiere Pro. But none of those are stopping me from doing any projects (yet) And if they are, I simply open up my Avid. Not a big deal atleast at this point. Keep in putting in the feature requests and keep your fingers crossed.
Aanarav Sareen
Adobe Certfied Expert, Premiere Pro
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Mark,
Glad you chimed in. With NDA in mind can you tell us, should we “relax” in general or just about audio?
Richard
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[Aanarav Sareen] “….. Complaining about a non-existant release with “unknown features” is not the smartest idea. And always, submit feature requests on Adobe’s sites. They do look into those carefully. I am not arguing, that there are some functions missing in Premiere Pro. But none of those are stopping me from doing any projects (yet) And if they are, I simply open up my Avid. Not a big deal atleast at this point. Keep in putting in the feature requests and keep your fingers crossed.”
Aanarav. I mean no disrespect, but you don’t get it.
1. I believe that this thread is voicing just some of the frustration that goes along with Adobe keeping us in the dark. I’ve never gotten an acknowledgement of any problem or interest from Adobe of my issues. The PP product manager that I met with at NAB 2005 was very receptive to my expressed needs, but he was gone from Adobe within a month of NAB 2005. I tried to follow up with calls to others at Adobe– no acknowledgement at all. It’s hard to have a lot of confidence that PP will meet my needs when I don’t know if anyone is really listening.
2. Your comment about just opening another edit application for a missing feature doesn’t take into consideration a number of things.
a. Workgroups. With workgroups you can’t just change back and forth. Today, I’ll edit on edit* tommorow PP, the next day AVID. The file and app incompatiblity is just too large an obstacle to overcome. That’s why standards like MXF and AAF offer hope for the future for your scenario of changing apps for features– and why these standards have been developed.
b. Video File reuse. In my situation, I am building a library of materials that can be used over and over again in digital format.
Right now, I have 75 hours of finished programs on an antequated(sp) non-standard motion JPEG format that can’t be used in Premiere.
I have learned from my mistakes. I have chosen, for the time being, Premiere. Adobe has said that Premiere is going to support IT standards for video integration. SMPTE and EBU have set standards for “wrapped” video files consisting of the DV family, some of the various flavors of MPEG along with non compress Digital formats both SD and HD.
c. Integration with IT functions like Digital Asset Management. You can design a DAM to work with AVID, but not Pemiere at this point. I need this functionality that integrates low rez proxies ( less that 3mb per second (long gop?))for having all your media searchable online as well as higher rez (DV 25 or greater)that can put on or taken of a Storage Area Network (SAN). The edit DAM has to be smart enough to know that low rez timelines that are created can be opened up with the hi rez stuff and all the work that has been done is ready for a more experience editor to take it to the next level.
3. The big question with PP going forward is,”What kind of Professional will the app be primarily designed for?” If it’s the social professionals or the one man band professionals, forget it. Nothing short of being a major league tool for untilization in Enterprise level IT integration and broadcast is acceptable IMHO.
Finally,PP 2.0 may be great. It’s just the anticipation is getting to me and I assume others. We need to vent and hopefully we will be pleasantly surprised.
Regards,
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Richard,
Again, I agree that there are deficincies in Premiere Pro and yes, they need to be developed. I am in no way saying that Premiere Pro is perfect; there are some bugs that need to be fixed and some features that need to be added. As I have said numerous times: submit feature requests. You might be surprised.PS: As to my Avid comment, I meant that I do my entire project in Avid if I foresee it being a problem in Premiere Pro.
Aanarav Sareen
Adobe Certfied Expert, Premiere Pro
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HAA HAA
very funny!richard, if i wanted you all to relax in general, I would not have needed to be oblique, and would be talking about yoga or something!
kapish?
see yaal later
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[Mark Palmos] “relax in general”
Thanks for the reassurance. I’m guessing that what Richard meant by “relax in general” was whether we should relax about only the audio concerns, or about other PP concerns expressed in this thread.
— BC
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