Rendering no fields

[Del Frost]

Well, forget the “4 hours” thing. That must’ve been another setting I adjusted without knowing what I was playing with.

In any case, I just set the thing to “No fields” in the settings menu, did a render & it still had fields!

So, HOW DO I RENDER WITH NO FIELDS??! PLEASE!!

[Thaxter Clavemarlton]

I don’t know what you’re trying to accomplish and I guess you don’t want us to know what you’re trying to accomplish (since you didn’t say).

So I’ll just play along.
I’ll guess you want to remove the interlace of both fields (why, I don’t know).
To do this, first DUPLICATE your timeline and work on the dupe (just in case).

Then, apply Effects > Video > De-interlace Filter to all of your clips on the timeline and render.
You will ALWAYS have fields (its how TV works) but both fields will now be identical.
Of course the resolution and smoothness of motion will be lowered as well.

[Del Frost]

Hmm. There’s no secret, I just didn’t want to go blathering on! I’m making a music video for my mate’s band, primarily as a way of getting into FCP. My source footage was shot on 2 x MiniDV Camcorders & a Hi8 camera.

So let’s see…

Firstly let me say that I do understand what fields are & how they go to make up a TV picture. (Just don’t make me sit a 3:2 pulldown exam just yet!)

In my normal workflow, I create motion graphics in After Effects, render with no fields to an uncompressed Quicktime mov file then use Compressor to convert that to separate Video & Audio files for DVD. (I don’t know whether this results in a progressive scan movie & half of each frame is ignored by my TV or whether the DVD software authors it with fields! It’s never been an issue, so I’ve never needed to find out.)

Simply put, the specific problem I’m having is that when I render my video from FCP & view it on a computer monitor, I can see the fields. However, my preview window in FCP does not show the fields & I thought I might be able to output a high quality equivalent.

Since I can assume (from the nature of your previous reply forcing me to think about it some more) that my source footage is encoded with fields, I assume the preview screen is “faking it” in some way & I also assume that I need to “fake it” to appear progressive on a computer, probably using the method you mention.

Does that make sense, or am I still talking fluent ming-mong?

[Thaxter Clavemarlton]

[Del Frost] “I assume the preview screen is “faking it” in some way & I also assume that I need to “fake it” to appear progressive on a computer, probably using the method you mention. “

The Viewer and Canvas show only one of the two fields on-screen.

Applying the De-interlace Filter can do basically the same thing to your interlaced video clip for output from FCP.

And/or if you’re trying for a “film-look” there are countless techniques, software (and discussions).
Do a “Search Posts” on this forum and go back several months (or years).

[Del Frost]

Thanks.

So is this not a problem encountered constantly by people using this software?

I mean, how do you play back a QT with fields on a computer? Or do you just “not”?

[Jeremy Garchow]

That depends on what kind of quicktime movie you want to compress. I would edit your program in full resolution, then export your movie to dedicated compression software (like cleaner or sorensen squeeze, where you can then deinterlace and correct the aspect ratio (square vs non square pixels) and then the movie will be suitable for viewing on a computer monitor. the movie will then be small enough (depending on compression) to email, or stream on the web.

If you want a ‘no fields’ DVD, you can take your export your finished movie into After Effects, interpret the footage as having no fields, render out a new movie as having no fields and then you should be all set.

Do you expect people to watch this DVD on their computers and not television sets?

Hope this helps.

Jeremy

[Del Frost]

Thanks.

It will have a variety of applications. My main aim in the short term would be to get a web friendly version, but I hope other uses may follow, so it’s all good head food.

[Braden Curtis]

If you’re just watching your sequence on a computer monitor, your video will look like the fields are reversed. Most likely, if you’re able to see your sequence on a television monitor, it will look fine. The progressive computer monitor just “doesn’t know” how to play interlaced video.

Are you able to connect via FW to one of your MiniDV Cameras, and then send the output of that to a regular tv? That should give you a more realistic interpretation of what’s on your timeline.

Thanks
Braden Curtis
Full Measure Media, Inc.

[Jeremy Garchow]

In that case, Thax gave some good advice about keeping two versions (interlaced and deinterlaced). I would keep your DVD at full interlaced quality and make different ‘progressive’ versions as needed. Also, getting an application like cleaner or sorensen squeeze will help in that process. Cleaner works great, but I don’t think it’s being developed for the mac any longer. Also, cleaners MPEG-2 compression for the mac is unusable. Sorensen squeeze has all the same feature sets as cleaner (and more) but I find it’s a lot harder to get the settings right. Good luck and please post anymore questions.

Jeremy

[Del Frost]

Thanks for all the help.