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  • Rendering in RGB or 8-bit YUV

    Posted by Antonbradley on April 20, 2007 at 1:10 pm

    Hi there,

    I’m using FCP 4.5 HD – My default render setting (in the sequence settings – video processing) was 8-bit YUV.

    I’m having problems with rendering a Knoll Light Factory effect and switching to RGB mode seems to make the resolution problems I’m having with the effect a little better (the light effect is less “streaky” but still not as detailed as before I render)

    So Question: Is it OK to “always render in RGB” ?

    Thanks a bunch!

    Anton

    Antonbradley replied 19 years, 3 months ago 3 Members · 11 Replies
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  • Rafael Amador

    April 20, 2007 at 3:32 pm

    Hi Anton,
    The question is that there are many plugins that have been designed to work in RGB, and even if you set your sequence in YUV they render RGB.I would like to know which is yours sequence codec and also what kind of footage are you working with.
    Anyway, having a good monitoring, I wouldn’t care much about the color space but about how its look on the screen.
    Cheers,
    rafael

  • Antonbradley

    April 20, 2007 at 3:44 pm

    Thanks Rafael,

    I’m working in DV PAL – footage is mainly inside a club / bar with some dark scenes and some very well lit scenes

    Unfotunately the onlu monitoring I have on this one is the Computer screen and a TV to test 🙁

    Help appreciated

  • David Roth weiss

    April 20, 2007 at 3:59 pm

    Anton,

    The streaking is more than likely banding in DV color space rather than a YUV vs RGB issue. Try the same effect and import into 8-bit or 10-bit timeline you most likely won’t have those issues. To avoid thess types of issues many folks cut the entire show in the DV realm and then re-render using 8 or 10-bit compression at the very end of the project.

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor/Post-production Supervisor
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles

  • Antonbradley

    April 20, 2007 at 5:19 pm

    Thanks David – quick one, how do I create a 8-bit or 10-bit timeline within the same FCP project?

    Anton

  • David Roth weiss

    April 20, 2007 at 5:27 pm

    Open a new timeline and change the sequence settings to 8 0r 10-bit before copying anything into that sequence. Then you copy everything over from the other timeline.

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor/Post-production Supervisor
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles

  • Antonbradley

    April 20, 2007 at 7:16 pm

    David,

    My current sequence settings are “Render in 8-bit YUV” – as said I’ve found “Always render in RGB” to be better for the Knoll Light effects – isn’t it just better to change the curent sequence’s render settings to RGB and re-render?

    unless there’s another place to change the settings to 8 0r 10-bit ? (oh yeah and the option: render 10-bit material in high-precision YUV is greyed out (so not available?)

    Thanks

    Anton

  • Rafael Amador

    April 21, 2007 at 8:39 am

    What David says is to change the codec of your sequence. In the Setting window chage DV/DVCPro to 8b Ubcompress.

    [antonbradley] “he option: render 10-bit material in high-precision YUV is greyed out (so not available?)”
    You can force the rendering in 10b. If I would be in your place I would do it.
    Cheers,
    Rafael

  • Antonbradley

    April 21, 2007 at 1:59 pm

    Thanks Rafael,

    How do I force the rendering in 10b? (I’m sure you’ve seen, I need detailed menu instructions, bit of a FCP newbie)

    Thanks

  • Antonbradley

    April 22, 2007 at 9:08 am

    Hi guys,

    OK i’ve tried changing my codec from DV PAL to 8 and 10-bit uncompressed and have tried rendering in all the available options (RGB, 8 bit YUV, high precision YUV, plus white and super white)

    It doesn’t seem to work – the effect is still streaky – see a screenshot example of the error below: (on the left is the high res on the right after rendered)

    https://www.unisonglobal.org/Knoll_light_render_error.jpg

    Thanks again!

    Anton

  • Rafael Amador

    April 22, 2007 at 12:50 pm

    Hi Anton,
    I’ve see the shoot. Sorry I can not help you with that. Why don’t you send the still to the people of RedGiant? Now they got a support web site.
    Cheers,
    rafael

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