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  • Aindreas Gallagher

    December 31, 2014 at 2:08 am

    [Charlie Austin] “Here’s the thing, I can cut in whatever I want. “

    baaaa. X has these hard core adherents, but so few speak the truth. They revel in fight.
    Charlie when will we know when you have cut in?

    when can we together turn as one to strangle old FCPX?

    but we light a fire, Suvesh advances through the trees.
    X is unguarded and Herb is, as I understand it, effectively from Jersey.

    https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

  • Oliver Peters

    December 31, 2014 at 2:12 am

    [Craig Seeman] “Probably, in part, due to more bad (or actually no) marketing from Apple. They’ve done virtually NOTHING to even hint that Photos will allow a smooth transition of libraries and something that might approach a similar feature set (even if implemented differently).”

    I don’t think it has much to do with marketing. Aperture was first out of the gate with a product that initially defined the genre. Although Aperture and Lightroom versions tended to leapfrog each other, many Aperture users simply got tired of waiting for Apple and moved over to Lightroom. FWIW – Aperture also uses a non-standard naming convention (Libraries and Projects) as compared with Lightroom (Folders and sub-folders).

    [Craig Seeman] “I think their intent might simply be unification of code and much better integration into the ecosystem than either iPhone or Aperture could do.”

    While that may be right, I do believe they are endeavoring to develop applications that require the performance of their newer machines, without a lot of concern for existing customers.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Craig Seeman

    December 31, 2014 at 2:35 am

    [Oliver Peters] “Aperture users simply got tired of waiting for Apple”

    Not unlike FCP users who saw not much change from the release of FCP6 in 2007, although, they had no compelling competitor to move to. Even in 2011, Adobe had a lot of work ahead of them to make PPro more attractive. Aperture users have Lightroom. I still think Apple could have made a case to wait for the “awesome” thing coming.

    [Oliver Peters] “I do believe they are endeavoring to develop applications that require the performance of their newer machines,”

    Yes they are a hardware company or, at least, an eco-system company. They want the pieces to work together and they want you to keep buying new pieces. I find it no more distasteful than those wiling to submit to Adobe’s subscriptions. Each has a price to pay.

    I don’t doubt that Apple is aware that all their competitors have an OS exit plan as each is cross platform except Apple. They are faced with providing a compelling reason to stay Mac.

    BTW iCloud Drive and iTunes both are available on Windows as means to offer iOS users a means to “exit” the other way.

    I can’t predicate success (and Apple certainly fails at times) but I can’t help but think Photos is part of an effort to move more people to Macs.

  • Aindreas Gallagher

    December 31, 2014 at 2:39 am

    [Peter J. DeCrescenzo] “I can’t consider Adobe’s subscription model, even though I’d probably enjoy using the latest version of Premiere and its more conventional UI & powerful features. But I want to own the software I use, forever.”

    no that’s actually that answer – until the market provides a competitor – ppro is the answer.

    https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

  • Oliver Peters

    December 31, 2014 at 2:42 am

    [Craig Seeman] “BTW iCloud Drive and iTunes both are available on Windows as means to offer iOS users a means to “exit” the other way.”

    Which is ironic, considering you can’t use iCloud Drive with 10.9.5 or iOS versions older than iOS7. That’s looking out for your customers. :-/

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Charlie Austin

    December 31, 2014 at 2:47 am

    [Aindreas Gallagher] “Charlie when will we know when you have cut in?”

    Well, for some random reason this week I’ve been cutting in FCP 7. It’s awful. 😉

    [Aindreas Gallagher] “when can we together turn as one to strangle old FCPX?

    but we light a fire, Suvesh advances through the trees.
    X is unguarded and Herb is, as I understand it, effectively from Jersey.”

    Too late, I’m afraid FCP X is undead Aindreas.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPmVhyHBRAM&list=PL859C112B5578DF45&index=4

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    ~”It is a poor craftsman who blames his tools.”~
    ~”The function you just attempted is not yet implemented”~

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  • Charlie Austin

    December 31, 2014 at 2:50 am

    [Oliver Peters] “Which is ironic, considering you can’t use iCloud Drive with 10.9.5 or iOS versions older than iOS7. That’s looking out for your customers. :-/

    True, but plain vanilla iCloud still works as it always did. You want the new hotness you gotta update.

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    ~ My FCPX Babbling blog ~
    ~”It is a poor craftsman who blames his tools.”~
    ~”The function you just attempted is not yet implemented”~

  • Charlie Austin

    December 31, 2014 at 3:00 am

    [Oliver Peters] “Any idea whether 10.10.2 is any better? “

    Don’t really know… Hopefully the UI is getting more tweaks as well as the usual bug squishing.

    [Oliver Peters] “Do you sense any improvement with FCP X in Yosemite? I’m on a 2009 MP and it feels slightly snappier, but it could just be wishful thinking. Core audio has been changed enough to mess with the third party peripherals.”

    It does seem a bit faster to me as well, though not really quantifiable. Pr and even FCP 7 do too, so maybe it’s the Kool-Aide. 😉 I think the changes to the Core Foundations, as well as the new Extension thingies open up some interesting possibilities.

    Also, something’s happening with scripting, evidenced by the fact that X2Pro now hooks into FCP X. FCP X doesn’t have a Dictionary (I looked) but there’s a ProVideo Asset Management suite which X2Pro uses. I think that’s new…

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    ~ My FCPX Babbling blog ~
    ~”It is a poor craftsman who blames his tools.”~
    ~”The function you just attempted is not yet implemented”~

  • Craig Seeman

    December 31, 2014 at 3:33 am

    [Oliver Peters] “Which is ironic, considering you can’t use iCloud Drive with 10.9.5 or iOS versions older than iOS7. That’s looking out for your customers. :-/”

    But the OS updates are free. Apple wants you to keep moving forward. As one moves forward with the “free” software one gets the “incentive” to upgrade hardware as the performance suffers… but the feature beckon (at least in theory).

  • David Mathis

    December 31, 2014 at 4:05 am

    I would love to use Resolve for editing as well but choppy playback is a negative. In other words playback is not in realtime. I have a mid 2012 Mac Pro so this could be an issue? The other reason I am sticking with FCP X, at least for now, is the ability to create custom generators, effects, titles, and transitions in Motion. I am interested in seeing how Resolve develops and how it integrates with Fusion when it becomes available for the Mac platform.

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