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  • Craig Seeman

    December 31, 2014 at 1:20 am

    [Aindreas Gallagher] “whether the aperture people are currently left holding their own… “

    Consider the difference in this case. Apple announced EOL in advance and, in the meantime, Aperture is still for sale. The test will be how well one can transition from Aperture to Photos and what the functionality is. I think one change, as noted in iOS, is a form of third party plugin support. Could be Apple has learned from the X release.

  • Oliver Peters

    December 31, 2014 at 1:28 am

    [Craig Seeman] “The test will be how well one can transition from Aperture to Photos and what the functionality is.”

    While true, there might not be that many Aperture users left. A lot migrated to Lightroom. So in reality, Apple might not have as much to lose.

    (Cynic mode on) Of course, if their UI design is as awful and eye-strain-inducing as Yosemite, then I don’t see many shifting from Lightroom back to Photos. Honestly most of their latest moves seem designed (more blatantly than ever before) to sell new hardware, like Retina iMacs. I would certainly imagine that’s the main purpose for Photos – as well as iCloud Drive, which, of course, helps to see more phones. (Cynic mode off)

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Aindreas Gallagher

    December 31, 2014 at 1:33 am

    [Charlie Austin] “It’s replacement, FCP X, crushes FCP 7, whether you or anyone else like it is another story. “

    that’s entertaining as a sentence given the inevitable implications for you in the near future.

    presumably the next bifurcation of FCPX will be a three dimensional editing space with your favourite clips and tagged tunes attaching themselves to the database in a high speed whirlwind. you read cupertino tea leaves at the end of the edit, and offer small snacks to the gods.

    ok – granted you will barely be in control, but at some point you’ll step back and say – “what wind truth will the primary and the secondary storyline perform today? Is my mind at one with the apple deep instruction?”

    Is your arm bound to your leg and are you hopping around like a lunatic? that – at least in terms on the timeline, is an issue for X.

    You’re all hopping around on one leg with tribal feathers in your hair constantly shouting that everything is ok here.

    it’s not.

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  • Charlie Austin

    December 31, 2014 at 1:36 am

    [Oliver Peters] “Of course, if their UI design is as awful and eye-strain-inducing as Yosemite,”

    FWIW, Use Dark Menu/Dock, and check increase contrast in accessibility settings. Much nicer. 🙂

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    ~ My FCPX Babbling blog ~
    ~”It is a poor craftsman who blames his tools.”~
    ~”The function you just attempted is not yet implemented”~

  • Oliver Peters

    December 31, 2014 at 1:45 am

    [Charlie Austin] “FWIW, Use Dark Menu/Dock, and check increase contrast in accessibility settings. Much nicer. :-)”

    I tried that. Makes the UI even worse. Contrast also messes with the display setting which isn’t great for video. Basically the Apple UI guys played hockey the day that the design class taught about readability.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Charlie Austin

    December 31, 2014 at 1:48 am

    [Aindreas Gallagher] “You’re all hopping around on one leg with tribal feathers in your hair constantly shouting that everything is ok here.

    it’s not.”

    Here’s the thing, I can cut in whatever I want. I own or rent all the “A” NLE’s, as well the R NLE and a couple others. I’m quite proficient in at least 3, if you include FCP 7, and I could be back to “get a gig” speed in MC in about 2 days if I needed to be.

    You seem to be operating under the assumption that the only NLE I ever use is X. You are mis-informed. If FCP X disappeared tomorrow the only effect it would have on me would be that I’d have to cut in an NLE that I don’t really like. I’ve gotten quite used to the alternative to track tetris, but I can still play that old game. 😉

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    ~ My FCPX Babbling blog ~
    ~”It is a poor craftsman who blames his tools.”~
    ~”The function you just attempted is not yet implemented”~

  • Charlie Austin

    December 31, 2014 at 1:50 am

    [Oliver Peters] “I tried that. Makes the UI even worse. Contrast also messes with the display setting which isn’t great for video. “

    Fair enough. 🙂 I kinda like it, and they are tweaking it with every update. Did you try the public beta? That was painful…

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    ~ My FCPX Babbling blog ~
    ~”It is a poor craftsman who blames his tools.”~
    ~”The function you just attempted is not yet implemented”~

  • Andrew Kimery

    December 31, 2014 at 1:55 am

    [Oliver Peters] “Basically the Apple UI guys played hockey the day that the design class taught about readability.”

    Hockey? I think of them as more the Frisbee golf type.

  • Oliver Peters

    December 31, 2014 at 1:56 am

    [Charlie Austin] “Did you try the public beta? That was painful…”

    No. I held off until 10.10.1. Any idea whether 10.10.2 is any better? I think it’s in developer hands. Do you sense any improvement with FCP X in Yosemite? I’m on a 2009 MP and it feels slightly snappier, but it could just be wishful thinking. Core audio has been changed enough to mess with the third party peripherals. My Mbox2 doesn’t work any longer and the Apogee guys are saying do not upgrade yet.

    Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Craig Seeman

    December 31, 2014 at 2:00 am

    [Oliver Peters] “While true, there might not be that many Aperture users left. A lot migrated to Lightroom. So in reality, Apple might not have as much to lose.”

    Probably, in part, due to more bad (or actually no) marketing from Apple. They’ve done virtually NOTHING to even hint that Photos will allow a smooth transition of libraries and something that might approach a similar feature set (even if implemented differently).

    [Oliver Peters] “Honestly most of their latest moves seem designed (more blatantly than ever before) to sell new hardware, like Retina iMacs. I would certainly imagine that’s the main purpose for Photos”

    Superficially I can’t see that as their intent because it would mean even more motive to buy a Mac than iPhoto offered (and to some extent Aperture).

    I think their intent might simply be unification of code and much better integration into the ecosystem than either iPhone or Aperture could do.

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