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RedShark News: Opinion: Which are the best NLEs right now?
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[Sjon Ueckert] “Okay, I think it’s time to hear from the viewpoint of the “Dinosaurs” and “Old Farts.”… I was a beta tester for Macromedia and had a version of Adobe PP (which I hated). I beta tested both Purple and KeyGrip (the forerunner to FCP). I was an early adopter of FCP 1.0 and had every iteration up to FCP 7… I was a little apprehensive about the jump from 7 to X, but I figured what the hell and took off my shoes and jumped right in. Now when clients want me to work with FCP7, my rate jumps about 40% versus FCPX. If I am made to sit and watch that damned “Writing video and audio” dialogue, I want to be paid to do it. I started on FCPX 1.0 and have never looked back.”
Sorry Sjon, but I don’t think you qualify for the title of “dinosaur” or “old fart”. You are obviously a progressive individual who beta tests and is not afraid to blaze new trails. These are NOT the people we are talking about regardless of if you are 70 or 100 years old. We’re talking old in mind and ways and not body. There are some people who only use the “tried and true method” that were “established by those who went before them”. Those are the people who will never use FCP X until some one goes down the road before them and establishes it as the “new tried and true method”.
That is at the heart of what this debate is all about. If you are someone who would never dream of beta testing and is afraid of change, then you’re not a candidate to use tools that work different like FCP X until those of us who are not afraid establish it as the new norm. That doesn’t take away from the fact that other factors like pipeline integration and missing features might also keep people from upgrading but some people are just adverse to learning a new way of doing things when their old way isn’t broken (even if it is inefficient and outdated).
Someone has got to travel towards the horizon while everyone around them is saying that the world if flat. Those are the FCP X users. Meet you at the horizon. 😉
~jr
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[John Rofrano] “Someone has got to travel towards the horizon while everyone around them is saying that the world if flat. Those are the FCP X users. Meet you at the horizon. ;-)”
As someone who has at times bet his money on “bleeding edge” technologies, this is an interesting topic. From a business perspective being an early adapter is a risky business plan, good upside if you establish yourself in an emerging field, bad downside if you invest your time and money in a technological dead end, or worse yet, get to a technology too early, go broke, and then see other’s cleaning up in a field you had entered years before.
Another problem with being an early adapter is that even if you gain exposure when successfully guessing which way the wind is blowing, that notoriety will be short lived when those with deeper pockets decide to enter the field. Being first does not equate with being best nor lasting longest, so if your in this as a business and your trying to make some money I’m not sure that chasing the horizon is the best way to spend your time. If it’s an avocation, well then, bon voyage.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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[Herb Sevush] “As someone who has at times bet his money on “bleeding edge” technologies, this is an interesting topic. From a business perspective being an early adapter is a risky business plan, good upside if you establish yourself in an emerging field, bad downside if you invest your time and money in a technological dead end, or worse yet, get to a technology too early, go broke, and then see other’s cleaning up in a field you had entered years before.”
What’s the saying, the pioneers are the ones with the arrows in their backs? I fully appreciate the broken bodies of the bleeding-edgers lying on the ground before me, because without them painstakingly creating a trail (or trying to create a trail) before dying my life would be more difficult. 😉
Off hand I can’t think of any tools I use on a daily basis that I started using at Version 1 yet I’m still successfully employed using these tools. If I was a integrator like Michael Kammes, an instructional teacher like Larry Jordan or a plugin maker like CrumblePop making plugins, then being first on the scene could be beneficial, but I’m an editor. Being first doesn’t win me anything (especially in my market of Los Angeles).
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As someone who has at times bet his money on “bleeding edge” technologies, this is an interesting topic. From a business perspective being an early adapter is a risky business plan,
A good example out be Digital Heaven over here in the UK who set up the first Final Cut pro facility in London and their business failed although I am pleased to say they are still happily devoting and selling plugins.
Had Cold Mountain come out a year earlier they would have survived. Risky brines indeed. Not sure if Martin b`kier from Digital Heaven read the Cow but his perspective would be valuable here.
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I use everything. Mac, PC and Linux. I opted to build my own PCs and go to windows for Resolve. All computers can give grief but WIN7 has been as reliable as Mac OS. I have used it for years with Fairlight.
Frankly Linux Mint is my favourite but I am only using it as the office laptop, Internet gateway to keep the other machines from being online as much as possible and for handling all sorts of disk format issues whilst being a general tool kit.
Once you are in Resolve there is really no significant difference which OS you use except I have an upgradeable GPU path that is cheaper and in a rack mount box with the PCIe slots in the box, not on a thunderbolt tether. Waiting for the new MacPro would have put me out of business so I jumped back into PCs a few years ago when X first prompted my move to Pr & Resolve.
If you just want to edit and leave the tech business to others then sure building your own PC might seem daunting but I can tell you that I feel safer with my own tech support of a PC than letting some kid at a Mac store near my MacPro. I also have read that Resolve is better on PC and certainly Fusion was made available on PC first so apart from not having ProRes encode I don’t feel I am missing anything whilst getting better bang for buck and a more easily upgradeable machine.
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“Photos” has finally appeared as part of the new 10.10.3 beta
https://www.macrumors.com/2015/02/05/apple-10-10-3-photos-app/
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True. And in the freelance world I encounter non mac OS’s far more than Mac – without designating a favored NLE (Avid.)
Tim
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Meanwhile, back at the ranch …
I thought I’d pop back in here to say that so far I’m very, very happy using Davinci Resolve 12 Studio (beta 4) as my NLE. It’s running fast & smooth on my new, self-built PC under Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit.
Details on my blog:
https://herefortheweather.wordpress.com/2015/07/30/resolve-12-building-my-windows-pc/As noted in my earlier post here on the Cow, my situation lent itself to using DR12 Studio for editing and grading. The full version of the software was included with my BMPC-4K camera. I don’t typically work as an editor, but I sometimes edit footage I shoot for smaller projects. I couldn’t afford to buy a new Mac Pro, and didn’t want to buy an old used Mac Pro or non-expandable iMac. After researching “how to” thoroughly, I discovered building a 6-core i7, 32GB RAM system with a GTX 980 Ti GPU to be relatively easy, fun and affordable.
As a FCP user since before the beginning, I’m finding the transition to DR12 Studio & Win 8.1 Pro to be relatively easy & painless. A joy really. I continue using my old MacBook Pro 17″ for most everything else.
I wish everyone much happiness & success using your tool(s) of choice. Cheers!
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