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Reconsidering FCPX in Hollywood
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[Simon Ubsdell] “I’m going to say “timecode”.”
One of my biggest feature requests for FCPX is a proper Timecode window that has multiple lines of which I can choose exactly whats displayed and what I used to seeing in Avid.
Looks like Premiere Pro just got one finally. Looking forward to when our facility updates to the newest version.
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[Paul Golden] “My guess is that as Gig10Ethernet and TB3 become ubiquitous and affordable, Apple will focus on collaboration as a logical extension of that. “
I don’t believe they see video collaboration as a market for themselves any longer. Just like the audio team behind Logic doesn’t see a market in audio post for their software. The core customer for FCPX is most likely the individual user, where collaboration has little application. 10GigE and TB3 on the iMacPros probably has little to do with the needs of video professionals collaborating. There are plenty of other professional users in other industries where those technologies are also important.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com
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[Simon Ubsdell] “Anyone who has been a regular here over the years (even Herb!) will readily admit that FCP X is an entirely viable solution for most if not all editing scenarios.”
Has it come to this, that I am now relegated to “even Herb.”
Where is Aindreas when I need him?
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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nothin\’ attached to nothin\’
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One great thing about moving from FCP – and I stopped at 7 – is that you can move to using a PC. I’m mostly retired now, but after FCP7 I used Edius then PPro CS6 and now Resolve 15, all on various generations of the box next to me. I can update the machine or any part of it whenever I want. I updated my GPU from a 460 to a 960 a while back, and now that I read that Resolve does a lot on the GPU I can just slot in a 1080 Ti, maybe. And the box has lots of useful connections and slots in the back so that I can add or remove functionality.
I don’t need machines from the stone age – 2010 and 2013 are so last year (!) Herb, sorry. I can’t think why Hollywood or anywhere else would want to stick with old limited hardware.
Bernie
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[Simon Ubsdell] “Or alternatively there is a problem with the application or with Apple’s positioning of it or both.
“Nope.
If people are making it work at ALL levels of production – successfully – all around the world. It’s hard to argue that the problem lines in the programs inherent capabilities.
Literally millions of editors have figured the program out.
It’s not the program – it’s the nature of the EDITOR.
And that’s not a judgement about that editors quality or capacity at all – but rather merely one about their personality and acceptance of change.
It’s perhaps a bit like excellent winter athletes accepting or dismissing the snowboard over the skis they are used to using.
Changing from – or sticking with – what you know, says nothing about your athletic prowess. But it DOES say something about your willingness to investigate new ways of getting down the hill.
Creator of XinTwo – https://www.xintwo.com
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[Herb Sevush] “I’m platform indifferent, not agnostic. I think the whole concept of having allegiances to appliances made by multi-national corporations is silly and unproductive and I wouldn’t want to label myself with any of them, any more than I would wear a Nike swoosh on my clothes.
“That’s fine.
We’re different.
For decades, Sony’s R&D and thinking drove much of my business success. I came to depend on them for solutions I could afford and what would best leverage my budgets and time into DOLLARS in return.
They took me through decades of success early in my career.
Then Apple took their place as my premiere vendor as the digital era dawned. Once again, they kept producing devices, technologies and innovations that let me make more money with less effort.
In both cases, the brand loyalty helped me thrive in that most of what I already owned, I didn’t have to re-learn and re-purchase over and over and over again.
YMMV.
Creator of XinTwo – https://www.xintwo.com
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[Oliver Peters] “10GigE and TB3 on the iMacPros probably has little to do with the needs of video professionals collaborating. There are plenty of other professional users in other industries where those technologies are also important.
“Sure, but just like with PCs, ALL this stuff is primarily developed for the Gamers. They are the constituency with the REAL economic clout out there.
We high end video guys just ride on their coattails because there are LOTS and LOTS of them – and remarkably few of us.
Look at the design aesthetic of GPU card marketing. Not exactly “buttoned down” designs for silicon ghetto workers targeting render farms. That stuff is built to look SEXY in a magazine ad aimed at a 12 year old.
The design aesthetic is basically Wolverine just strolled past that graphic card – and was pissed off!
Creator of XinTwo – https://www.xintwo.com
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[Neil Goodman] “That’s part of the problem – why after 7 years do people still doubt FCPX as a viable tool?
“Because if you want to speed and the enhanced productivity that X can give you – you have to ADAPT to it.
It’s not going to adapt to you.
And most video editors feel (as much as they grouse) that the way they already work is just fine, thank you very much.
The danger may be that in a few years, if one set of editors is ACTUALLY getting the job done in significantly less time and are significantly less stressed out than another team – that MAY be a critical factor.
Or not.
Maybe you will work the entire rest of your career, doing things exactly the same way you do them right now.
And if you’re happy with that – you’re all set.
Nobody knows if some hungry guy or gal will EVER snatch work from you because they figured out how to do the same thing you do – only faster and easier.
It may be a hedge you NEVER need.
Or not.
Nobody knows.
Creator of XinTwo – https://www.xintwo.com
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[Bill Davis] “Changing from – or sticking with – what you know, says nothing about your athletic prowess. But it DOES say something about your willingness to investigate new ways of getting down the hill.”
I think there’s also another related factor at play – especially when we are talking about facilities posting film and TV. Many of these shops, as well as editors, made the transition from Avid to FCP “legacy”. For many that created a certain amount of upheaval. With FCPX, another – even more disruptive – shift was required. Since the first change was rough at times – and with X, that first decision ultimately proved to be wrong in the long term – facility managers and editors were/are reluctant to do it all over again. Shifting sideways to Premiere – or back to Media Composer – was simply the easiest choice. Simple matter of risk aversion.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com
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[Bill Davis] “It’s not the program – it’s the nature of the EDITOR. “
id say its the nature of the industry, not the editor.
Why would an editor take the time to learn something new if he never gets to flex that new knowledge or no ones going to pay him to use his new skills?
I bet your ass if all of the sudden – every shop switched to X – Editors would figure it out very quickly – or be poor.
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