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Reconsidering FCPX in Hollywood
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[Bill Davis] “If you choose to represent yourself in discussions – or billboard a signature that identifies you as platform agnostic, your posts and opinions will likely be seen through that light. If not, then not. “
I’m platform indifferent, not agnostic. I think the whole concept of having allegiances to appliances made by multi-national corporations is silly and unproductive and I wouldn’t want to label myself with any of them, any more than I would wear a Nike swoosh on my clothes.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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[Tony West] “He doesn’t want people to switch to it if they don’t want to, he’s just saying “did you know you could do this with it?””
I think part of the original post was to point out the fact – that after 7 years – someone of his stature has to have a demo and tell people,” hey look we can do that too, and it might work better for you. ”
That’s part of the problem – why after 7 years do people still doubt FCPX as a viable tool?
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[Simon Ubsdell] ” But can we really, at this very late stage, attribute all the blame exclusively to intransigent editors who refuse to see the light?”
Speaking to FCPX in “Hollywood”:
“all,” “exclusively” – of course not. But substitute “most” and “primarily” – a resounding YES. After 7 years, the level hostility and misinformation is breathtaking.
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[Neil Goodman] “That’s part of the problem – why after 7 years do people still doubt FCPX as a viable tool?”
It is indeed a very interesting conundrum.
Anyone who has been a regular here over the years (even Herb!) will readily admit that FCP X is an entirely viable solution for most if not all editing scenarios.
So what is the problem? Why has it failed to take off in the traditional environment? Because it remains unarguable that it hasn’t taken off, and that FCP Legacy puts it to shame in that department.
I’m going to be contentious and hazard one guess – though the reality is that there must be a whole number of interlocking factors.
I’m going to say “timecode”.
In many top end scenarios you can probably get away without agonising about timecode, but if you do need to worry about it, there’s no question that FCPX lets you down. It’s just not even remotely as good as the competition.
Some of us, some of the time, need this level of timecode feedback, instantly available, without fuss or fiddle.
The competition provides it – FCP X falls far short.
I would stress that I’m not in any way suggesting that this one thing is a deciding factor, but it’s definitely one of several.
FCP X doesn’t think this stuff is important. To those few to whom it is important, that feels like a kick in the teeth.
And while we’re at it, whatever happened to Gang Sync and true Replace Edit?
Sometimes these things are mission critical. If you’re not an editor to whom that applies, I can only say, “Lucky, lucky you.”
Simon Ubsdell
tokyo productions
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[Jeff Markgraf] “After 7 years, the level hostility and misinformation is breathtaking.”
Or alternatively there is a problem with the application or with Apple’s positioning of it or both.
Not for me to adjudicate on that but it’s a point worth making, I think.
Simon Ubsdell
tokyo productions
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[Simon Ubsdell] “Not for me to adjudicate on that”
And yet, here you are adjudicating…
Years of talking to lots of people in this town, and the response from the Never X crowd is pretty consistent:
Ill-informed and proud to have no interest in trying it out.So, no, the point really isn’t worth making. That point is past its “sell by” date.
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[greg janza] “The trashcan came in with a loud thud in 2013”
Where do you guys get this nonsense? No thud at the places where I work, or among the people I know.
A small but vocal group (mostly online) chanting, “but, muh slots!” is just background noise for lots of people happily doing real work while waiting (way to long) for an updated machine. -
[Jeff Markgraf] “And yet, here you are adjudicating…”
Not really.
It was an alternative hypothetical explanation to a phenomenon that could be interpreted in any number of different ways.
Simon Ubsdell
tokyo productions
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[Jeff Markgraf] “A small but vocal group (mostly online) chanting, “but, muh slots!” is just background noise for lots of people happily doing real work while waiting (way to long) for an updated machine.”
As someone who disliked the design of the Tcan when it first came out but then went out and bought one when I needed a new Mac workstation, I can say without hesitation that it is indeed a Thud. Yes you can work with it (if your video cards haven’t caught fire) but it is a dead end investment. Which is why Tim Cook came out and admitted that it was a total failure and that Apple was going to relegate the trash-can to the trash can when bringing out their next workstation, which is why you have been waiting (way to long) for an updated machine.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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[Jeff Markgraf] “just background noise for lots of people happily doing real work while waiting (way to long) for an updated machine”
Well… Except for corrupt renders, damaged GPUs, and mediocre performance with software other than Apple’s. And add to that, Thunderbolt sockets, where the cables easily pull out or disconnect with the most minimal movement of the machine.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com
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