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Scott Witthaus
May 7, 2018 at 4:44 pm[Al Bergstein] “it would be trivial for me to learn final cut Pro X. It’s even more trivial for me to buy it.”
The don’t. Man, you PC guys are touchy!
[Al Bergstein] “Apple has done little to convince us that they won’t do another FCP switch again. “
That’s right! As an Avid|DS user I know Avid would NEVER do that. Oh wait…..
[Al Bergstein] “They could dump us all tomorrow, and it would not affect their bottom line at all.”
As Steve said, a switch to Premiere, Avid or Resolve would be in order. Plus, on an hourly gig, there would be more money to be made….
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Scott Witthaus
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Al Bergstein
May 7, 2018 at 6:03 pm[Al Bergstein] “it would be trivial for me to learn final cut Pro X. It’s even more trivial for me to buy it.”
The don’t. Man, you PC guys are touchy!
Al says: Wasn’t being touchy, just pointing out that the price and training time is not the issue.
[Al Bergstein] “Apple has done little to convince us that they won’t do another FCP switch again. ”
That’s right! As an Avid|DS user I know Avid would NEVER do that. Oh wait…..
Al says: Well, I moved to Pr. They haven’t done that yet. I have no idea about Avid’s history. I’ve been overall happy with the switch to Pr. Though it seems that a lot of complaints are showing up currently on their boards.
[Al Bergstein] “They could dump us all tomorrow, and it would not affect their bottom line at all.”
As Steve said, a switch to Premiere, Avid or Resolve would be in order. Plus, on an hourly gig, there would be more money to be made….
Al says: Yes, I did. And yes, probably true. I am a long time Apple (and Windows) customer. To be clear, I have used Macs since the very first one was brought out (boy does that date me!). I have wandered back and forth with Apple over the decades, and supported thousands of their machines as well as Windows machines. I loved FCP, and felt it was extremely stable for those days, compared to the competition. I felt the move to X was extremely poorly handled and showed a lack of respect for the customer. I have loved working on Pr (and it’s tight integration with Audition and AE). I am a working pro but only local docs etc. Not involved in any big ticket filmmaking. (I have done a lot of local video and a few longer docs). I should have been Apple’s X customer. But am not. I just bought a new MB Pro, have an iMac 27″ (2017). But I’m not convinced any of us have a future on Apple’s platforms, and I use NTFS drives with Paragon software’s NTFS for Macs to allow cross platform compatibility and a way off Apple if needed.
Al
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Steve Connor
May 7, 2018 at 6:25 pm[Al Bergstein] “I felt the move to X was extremely poorly handled and showed a lack of respect for the customer.”
Not many people will disagree with the fact that the launch was handled badly!
[Al Bergstein] “I have loved working on Pr (and it’s tight integration with Audition and AE).”
That’s great, despite what some of the more ardent FCPX evangelists say, it is a great NLE with some excellent features and if you love working with then good for you!
[Al Bergstein] “But I’m not convinced any of us have a future on Apple’s platforms”
I was starting to entertain thoughts like that as well a while ago, but I think Apple have moved to reassure Pros in the last few months and I’m a lot more confident now. However if I was editing on PPro only I’d be very tempted to switch back to PC as there definitely seems to be advantage to running it on Nvidia Cards
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Scott Witthaus
May 7, 2018 at 7:07 pm[Al Bergstein] “Though it seems that a lot of complaints are showing up currently on their boards. “
You get to know to pass on the first few versions of an Adobe update.
Scott Witthaus
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Bill Davis
May 7, 2018 at 11:22 pm[Michael Gissing] “The image of a container strapped to a Smart Car lingers.”
Yep,
That would be dumb. Just like those trying to park a Semi on the streets of a typical big-city downtown to move somebody into their new digs.
Typically those big rigs, have specialized routes into and out of the city – and the expectation is that when the goods get to the distribution center – fleets of smaller and more agile delivery vehicles are WAY better options for city delivery.
Maybe AVID on your laptop for generating the next generations video communications — will rise up and rule the future.
I wish them well on that path.
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Tim Wilson
May 8, 2018 at 4:39 am[Aindreas Gallagher] “He’s not lying. I myself learnt of the Emu’s, the standing stones and the solar power cell trees himself and his good partner Nora enjoy day by day.”
Indeed, among our conversations is the key role that Joyce’s own Nora (Barnacle, immortalized as Molly Bloom) played in his otherwise inexplicable stylistic leap to Ulysses (which we might characterize as outright theft if Joyce hadn’t built something so magnificent from his pilferings) from the mere mortality of The Dubliners and Portrait of the Artist As A Young Man which I adore nonetheless in calling them prosaic. They are, after all, prose.
This is the perfect time to note that Nora: The Real Life of Molly Bloom‘>Nora: The Real Life of Molly Bloom by Brenda Maddox came out during my career as a bookstore manager for Barnes & Noble, and is vastly better than the Amazon reviews would lead you to believe.
See? Literary criticism. I’m happier talking about that, or frankly, my love of retail, than most of what we talk about, which I also obviously enjoy. But it’s a tiny, tiny slice of my actual LIFE. This is after all my fifth or sixth career. I’m interested in lots of stuff, and my range of interests is expanding. I know yours is too.
One of the limitations of this forum, which I’d like to address at length in another couple of threads, is the necessarily narrow window it offers into our lives. No matter how discursive our discourse here, we’re still more or less buzzing in circles around this bizzzzzness.
This means that I’ve never mentioned Aindreas’s Twitter identity (chock-a-block with all the phlegm and fortune a man could want) as @swimtwobirds, a delightful cyber-pun on the 1939 classic Irish novel At Swim Two Birds (get it? AT Swim Two Birds! Genius!) by Brian O’Nolan, under the pseudonym Flann O’Brien. It would take Don DeLillo nearly 50 years to catch up to this level of stylistic meta-flair in White Noise, and David Foster Wallace another 20 years after that, if that, and the two of them combined are less than half as funny as O’Nolan.
So what you probably don’t know if you’re only going by our occassional public clashes — including over FCPX; I’ll be reminding you all later in this thread that I was alone in predicting that FCPX would reach 10 million users by the end of its first year (OOOPS) — is that I’ve always considered Aindreas my conscience in my role as forum moderator. He and I will always differ on the appropriate amount of editorial guidance I should be offering — I think I’ve consistently erred in moderating too little; he demurs in rainbows — but I’ve been grateful for his demands for transparency, and his frequent insistence that I do better.
Well, for the past year and a half, personal crises (86.4%), demands from other parts of my job (9.2%), and various other nonsense (4.4%) have meant that I’ve done next to nothing here, but it’s not for any lack of interest. I missed catching the wave on quite a few threads along the way. I currently have 205 tabs open in Chrome (which isn’t even the only browser I have open), and surely a half dozen or more of those are unfinished posts on some of these months-old threads. I may finish some of them yet.
I of course tried to fire up again not long ago and fizzled. I hope this time that I’ll be able push the choke back in before I sputter out so soon this time. (Since we got to lawnmowers on this thread, I thought it was about damn time to bring in outboard motors.)
In the meantime, as much as we’re all safer when Aindreas isn’t posting under the influence, I agree with Simon that we’re all poorer when he’s not posting at all.
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Greg Janza
May 8, 2018 at 3:36 pm[Steve Connor] “disposable doesn’t really apply!”
If there’s anything that we can count on with Apple it’s that at any point in any of their products’ lifeline any item can be designated as disposable.
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