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  • Raylight workflow

    Posted by Jesse Gordon on December 13, 2007 at 4:40 pm

    Hi –

    We’ve just got Raylight & the documentation is a little sparse if you are not editing directly from the P2 card. Your insight is appreciated.

    We are working from folders copied onto drives.

    How do we keep projects & cards seperate? Raylight placed all the links into one folder, and it was impossible to determine what link belonged to what.

    The ultimate goal is for the Assistants to hand off a Final Cut project which is organized thusly:
    – separate folder for each card.
    – Within each card’s folder every clip has a relevant name.
    – this project can be used at 2 stations referencing 2 instances of the media (IOW segment producer can pull selects on one station referencing copies of the MXF media, while the lead editor pushes ahead on a project referencing another instance of the MXF media. All clips are named the same, but the directory structure is not identical).

    Thanks for your help!
    – Jesse Gordon

    Marcus Van bavel replied 18 years, 5 months ago 2 Members · 5 Replies
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  • Marcus Van bavel

    December 13, 2007 at 4:45 pm

    Drag the card image into “Other Scan Locations” and use the “Store Links with MXF Files” option.

  • Jesse Gordon

    December 13, 2007 at 10:17 pm

    OK.
    And what if I bring that project over to another station, where the MXF files live in a slightly different directory structure.
    Can I relink as I would do with Quicktimes?? Even if the MXF clipnames have all been renamed?

    THX
    -Jesse

  • Marcus Van bavel

    December 14, 2007 at 12:50 am

    [Jesse G] “And what if I bring that project over to another station, where the MXF files live in a slightly different directory structure.
    Can I relink as I would do with Quicktimes?? Even if the MXF clipnames have all been renamed?”

    If you move the folder, you would have to open each link file, wait for quicktime to find the MXF file, then save it.

    Or use Raylight to rescan the MXF files with the “Overwrite” option.

    The MXF files cannot be renamed.

  • Jesse Gordon

    December 14, 2007 at 1:03 am

    I want to rename clips within Final Cut.

    “00165K.MXF.mov” is not very informative to the various editors who work together on these projects.

    I appreciate the time saved creating QT wrappers, but this work flow feels a little clunky. Am I missing something?

  • Marcus Van bavel

    December 14, 2007 at 1:29 am

    [Jesse G] “I want to rename clips within Final Cut.

    “00165K.MXF.mov” is not very informative to the various editors who work together on these projects.

    I appreciate the time saved creating QT wrappers, but this work flow feels a little clunky. Am I missing something?”

    Yes, you have shoehorned Raylight into an ineffective workflow and that’s why it feels clunky. When movies are shot on film it is the camera crew that names each clip (“Scene 23, take 5” etc.) not the film editor. Somehow this got switched around and the forcing of this extra work upon the editor is being perpetuated by Apple.

    Here is how it should be done:

    1. The cameraman or assistant camera uses a Mac laptop computer and P2 CMS software (free from Panasonic) to backup the card onto hard drive and rename the clips, and fill in any metadata items such as ProgramName (e.g. “MyFeatureFilm”), UserClipName (e.g. “Scene 23 Take 5”), etc. and give a name to the P2 card, i.e. “MyShootDay1”. This job can be simplified if you upload some of these metadata items to the camera via an SD card so they are used by default, see https://www.dvxuser.com/jason/P2-Name-article

    2. The backup drive or the P2 Cards are connected to the editor’s computer.

    3. The editor scans with Raylight using the UserClipName, Volume Name, and Program Name options. The shots are automatically organized into a “MyFeatureFilm” folder in the Raylight folder. Inside the “MyFeatureFilm” folder there will be a “MyShootDay1” folder (the name of the P2 Card). This process only takes a few seconds.

    4. Inside the “MyShootDay1” folder will be a number of .MXF.mov Raylight link files, beginning with “Scene23 Take 5 0001FG.MXF.mov” where 0001FG.MXF is the first clip that was shot on that day for example. If an external drive is used for editing, then the Raylight links should be copied to the drive and backed up along with the card images at some point in the editing process (for example at night after the first day of editing).

    5. The link files are imported into FCP using File->Import, like regular quicktime files.

    6. If the drive is moved to another computer, the links will still function as long as the structure of the drive is not changed and the volume name of the drive is not changed. Also the other computer does not need to have Raylight installed. The link files, once they are created, are completely handled by Quicktime without help from Raylight.

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