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Kevin Monahan
October 19, 2005 at 9:46 pmGood lord this is great news for the effects guys! Now we got super duper fast slots for super duper fast vid cards which will make Motion fly. And you have the Quad procs for FCP renders. Cool. Really cool….
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Mitchji
October 19, 2005 at 9:50 pm[George Loch] “Now, I can’t say how closely these perform to one another as I suspect the quad G5 may be faster than the quad 265s but, this gives you a solid idea how truly comparable workstation-class options are.”
Hi George,
This is almost impossible to determine because the systems don’t run identical software (even if the program is the same the actual code is different). So if AE is slower on a G5 is it due to the G5 or did Adobe do a better job of optimizing for Intel? That said check these Algolith benchmarks:
https://www.algolith.com/index.php?id=algotools_benchmarksBest Wishes,
Mitch
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George Loch
October 19, 2005 at 10:08 pm[MitchJi] “So if AE is slower on a G5 is it due to the G5 or did Adobe do a better job of optimizing for Intel?”
Actually, I still think they are valid tests in terms of the user experience. Xbench doesn’t help me get my work done but, AE does and I like knowing what helps it operate more efficiently. So, yes, I do see a cross-platform comparison of AE, Photoshop even Cinebench as useful. What we don’t have (and won’t in the foreseeable future) is a cross-platform NLE to do the same.
BTW, I foundd, having done a lot of AE on both platforms, that the Mac still had the AE edge until the dual-core AMDs arrived. Now it’s a catch up game. This new Quad mac may put them back on top.
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Michael Horton
October 19, 2005 at 10:30 pmTed Schilowitz of AJA will be on the Digital Production Buzz show tomorrow at 6:00PM PST. You can call in or write and get the whole story from the “horses mouth.”
https://www.digitalproductionbuzz.com/index.php
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Gavin Stokes
October 19, 2005 at 10:36 pmThe “bias” wasn’t even sly; remember year after year of using Photoshop 4 Gaussian blur to prove PowerPC superiority?
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in this case it’s not total BS. Shake does a lot of different types of processing, but we saw a legitimate 30- to 40-percent speed-up with it (don’t know about FCP). As the last gasp for the PowerPC line, this could buy you a couple of extra years of usefulness.
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Don Greening
October 20, 2005 at 12:22 amHalf-baked case of buyer’s remorse here. I bought a 2.7 not three weeks ago. Was right in the middle of some projects and haven’t even changed everything over from my G4 yet. The other half of me is thinking that it’ll take awhile for the dual quads to get sorted out with all the 3rd parties (partys?).
But overall I’m very happy for us Mac people and for Apple in general. Exciting times, indeed. I still have my T-shirt from the 80’s that says: “friends don’t let friends use DOS.”
– Don
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Erik Mickelson
October 20, 2005 at 3:53 amPlease quit using the word “boon”.
Thanks 😉It is just that I do not like the word. Please continue to use the word “boon” if you would like.
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Scott Dennis
October 20, 2005 at 4:18 amWhy can’t Avid Xpress Pro be used for the cross platform NLE?
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George Loch
October 20, 2005 at 4:37 amYou make a good point. The beauty of it is both versions are in the box.
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Francois Stark
October 20, 2005 at 6:25 amFrankly I’m not impressed by the midrage G5 models. The top-end G5 quad looks like a render workhorse, but the other two single CPU dual core machines will be slower than the ones they replace!
The single dualcore 2GHz will be slower than the dual 2GHz G5, and the single dualcore 2.3GHz will be slower than the current dual 2.3GHz – because they share one bus to the CPU. Their only advantage will be PCIe – which also does not help all of us with PCI-X hardware.
I am currently using a dual Xeon and three dualcore AMD64 X2 machines for graphics – the AMD’s render faster but their interactivity dies while rendering. The dual Xeon renders a bit slower, but you still get full interactive user interface while it is rendering, presumably because of the seperate interfaces to memory.
Answer this: Why would Apple not lead their website with the new dual core G5 machines? Are they not proud of their newest high-end offering? They are leading with the new iMacs, the new G5’s are nowhere on the front page…
Regards
Francois
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