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  • George Loch

    October 20, 2005 at 7:32 am

    [Francois Stark] “The single dualcore 2GHz will be slower than the dual 2GHz G5, and the single dualcore 2.3GHz will be slower than the current dual 2.3GHz – because they share one bus to the CPU. Their only advantage will be PCIe – which also does not help all of us with PCI-X hardware.”

    I am not so certain. Remember we have new, faster ram as well. I think we should wait and see on this one.

    [Francois Stark] “Answer this: Why would Apple not lead their website with the new dual core G5 machines? Are they not proud of their newest high-end offering? They are leading with the new iMacs, the new G5’s are nowhere on the front page…”

    Also notice that Steve Jobs only shows up for the consumer announcements. Apple is a consumer company – at leas they want to be. They wil lstill serve the pros but, they put a lot of emphasis now on the general market or as general as they can get. iPod is their current love and will be so for awhile.

    -gl

  • Walter Biscardi

    October 20, 2005 at 11:25 am

    [Francois Stark] “Answer this: Why would Apple not lead their website with the new dual core G5 machines? Are they not proud of their newest high-end offering? They are leading with the new iMacs, the new G5’s are nowhere on the front page…”

    They didn’t lead with their last G5 offerings either. They’re rotated in the bottom boxes. The iMac and iPod are what the public wants and they will sell a LOT more iPods and iMacs, and even iBooks than G5’s. Pros know to look at the store and find the towers, the front page is geared to towards the general consumer these days.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    https://www.biscardicreative.com

    Now editing “Good Eats” in HD for the Food Network

    “I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters

  • Francois Stark

    October 20, 2005 at 12:29 pm

    I’m sure the Chief Mad Scientist: Rob-ART Morgan at http://www.barefeats.com will compare the midrange G5 models with their older brothers.

    F

  • Francois Stark

    October 20, 2005 at 12:36 pm

    Walter, I suppose that’s true – they expect the pro’s to do more by themselves.

    The real question is: where do they make more bottom line profit? The G5’s have a much higher profit margin: how many iPods must they sell to make as much profit as on one G5?

    I don’t expect any more updates on the G5 line: Apple’s engineers must be working full speed on the Intel lineup.

    Sad…

    Regards
    Francois

  • Walter Biscardi

    October 20, 2005 at 12:47 pm

    [Francois Stark] “The real question is: where do they make more bottom line profit? The G5’s have a much higher profit margin: how many iPods must they sell to make as much profit as on one G5?”

    Not sure on that one. I mean and iPod is just a small harddrive. how much does the iPod actually cost Apple to make? $40? $30? $50? A G5 requires a lot more equipment, software, etc… so I’m thinking the Profit margin is actually larger per iPod (from a percentage perspective) than a G5. And how many iPods have been sold? Too many to count I’m sure.

    [Francois Stark] “I don’t expect any more updates on the G5 line: Apple’s engineers must be working full speed on the Intel lineup.”

    And that’s a good thing. The G5’s are a good machine, but there’s so much more potential out there with the Intel move that I’m looking forward to seeing what Apple will have in April at NAB. Hopefully a working Intel box running all the apps so we can really see where Apple’s speeds will be. The machines announced yesterday are essentially “crowd pleasers” so folks will stop whining about Dual Core. Ok, Dual Core is here, but I’m not sure I’m ready to jump right out and spend $3,200 to upgrade my current Dual 2.0’s. I really think that Intel G5 (G6?) will be here sooner rather than later. But we all have to wait and see.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    https://www.biscardicreative.com

    Now editing “Good Eats” in HD for the Food Network

    “I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters

  • Gary Taylor

    October 20, 2005 at 2:50 pm

    Yeah,
    I think these machines are more somebody like who has been on the fence for a long time. If things line up the way I am expecting I see the high end system in my future. If I had a dual 2.5 it might not make alot of sense but I think a new dual dual machine would make sense for me. Apple has made me a joiner (can’t switch).
    Gary

  • Mitchji

    October 20, 2005 at 3:16 pm

    [Francois Stark] “I don’t expect any more updates on the G5 line”

    Hi,

    Apple might bump the midrange to a Quad at some point.

    I think the intial announcement was Intel Powermac’s by the end of 06. If the Intel Powermac’s are 10 to 12 month’s out there will probably be a speed bump to the whole line.

    Best Wishes,

    Mitch

  • Mitchji

    October 20, 2005 at 4:35 pm

    [Scott Dennis] “Why can’t Avid Xpress Pro be used for the cross platform NLE?”

    Hi,

    This would NOT be ” cross platform NLE” test. It would be a cross platform Avid Express Pro test.

    Best Wishes,

    Mitch

  • Mitchji

    October 20, 2005 at 4:38 pm

    [Francois Stark] “The single dualcore 2GHz will be slower than the dual 2GHz G5, and the single dualcore 2.3GHz will be slower than the current dual 2.3GHz – because they share one bus to the CPU. “

    Hi,

    That contradicts this test:
    https://www.macsimumnews.com/index.php/archive/index/details_benchmarks_on_the_new_power_macs
    “The Swedish Mac site, 99mac reportedly put the dual-core Power Mac G5 2.3GHz through its paces and found that it was only a bit faster than a liquid-cooled dual-2.5GHz Power Mac.”

    Best Wishes,

    Mitch

  • Mitchji

    October 20, 2005 at 5:07 pm

    [Walter Biscardi] “I’m looking forward to seeing what Apple will have in April at NAB. Hopefully a working Intel box running all the apps so we can really see where Apple’s speeds will be. The machines announced yesterday are essentially “crowd pleasers” so folks will stop whining about Dual Core.”

    Hi Walter,

    It might take longer to optimize most of the major applications for Intel than to deliver the hardware.

    Quad machines should be a LOT faster (twice as many CPU’s) so they are probably much more than merely “crowd pleasers”.

    Best Wishes,

    Mitch

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