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Gary Huff
July 1, 2013 at 11:13 pm[Jeremy Garchow] “I think I remember this now…”
I didn’t look, but I was totally like, “I think Garchow was the one who responded to my question on Techniques!”
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Craig Alan
July 1, 2013 at 11:47 pmDepends. Have had good/bad experiences with each – live and recorded. Variables: acoustics, scope, company, atmosphere, talent, and type of compositions. Live performance and recordings are not the same. There have been great records and great performances. Recorded live is not the same as a live performance.
I agree that being at Yankee Stadium is an over-priced trip worth taking. I love sitting mid-way up behind the catcher. You don’t miss a thing except an accurate view of a pitch being high or low. Baseball is often beatifically telecast however. You often don’t miss a thing from several angles. Not so with hockey or figure skating where the speed and dimensions of the ice are not well translated to the screen.
There are performers that are just better live – they project both near and far into the hall. James Earl Jones, Maggie Smith, Nicol Williamson, are all great on screen but once in a life time live; Al Pacino and many other movie stars play better on screen, less is more. A lot of live concerts do not sound as good as a good recording played through quality speakers. Sure you can’t beat the sound of an acoustic guitar played in a living room with no need for mikes or speakers. If I had to choose between my favorite recordings and some mediocre cover band at the local tavern (not that we need to choose) but if I had to … I’m going with the originals.
Live shows are becoming multi media. Hard to tell what’s real and what’s recorded. Michael Jackson was considered one of the greatest live performers of his era. But I’ve talked to people who worked with him and they say there was no way he could sing and dance through many of the numbers. Now he did record the songs, but it was not all live.
As an old teacher of mine once said over and over till I got it: it’s not a matter of either/or; it’s both/and. Of course this is self contradictory because there are times you have to make a decision. Whose side ya gonna be on?
Mac Pro, macbook pro, Imacs (i7); Camcorders: Panasonic AG-HPX170/AG-HPX250P, Canon HV30/40, Sony Z7U, VX2000, PD170; FCP 6 certified; write professionally for a variety of media; teach video production in L.A.
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Tony West
July 3, 2013 at 2:39 amBill,
If I were to think of X in terms of being revolutionary, I would say it would be it’s ability to close the learning curve on high end editing.
It’s simplicity.
It has power, but yet I can see Children on youtube putting up tutorials on it. (children, not even teenagers)
It’s competitors are great, but they have the same learning curve as they have had for some time.
That’s not a knock, just different.I jumped on X early because for one, I predicted that young folks would take to it and I didn’t want them knowing something I didn’t know. But then I liked it : )
When I was cutting on CMX in the 80’s, little kids where not using the same tools as me.
The fact that they are now, is…let’s face it, a huge change in the industry.
In the past, if you didn’t know what you were doing, you would be hard pressed to put something out that looked professional.
Now, I think that’s changed.
I wonder if you would agree : )
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Gary Huff
July 3, 2013 at 3:45 am[tony west] “If I were to think of X in terms of being revolutionary, I would say it would be it’s ability to close the learning curve on high end editing.”
What is “high end” editing?
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Tony West
July 3, 2013 at 3:53 amThe kind of work that Tsui Hark does would be an example.
I’m sure others have their own, but he would be mine.
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Andrew Kimery
July 3, 2013 at 6:02 am[tony west] “In the past, if you didn’t know what you were doing, you would be hard pressed to put something out that looked professional.
Now, I think that’s changed.
“I think the ability to put something out is certainly easier, but if you don’t know what you are doing it will most likely fall short of professional. That doesn’t mean it can’t be entertaining, but there’s a reason why no-budget indies (even no budget indies that have some talented crew) typically stick out like a sore thumb if compared to their studio/network competition. On a different scale, I hit up YouTube for DIY home repair vids somewhat frequently and 90% of them are technically lacking in just about every capacity but if they info is communicated clearly enough that’s all that matters.
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Joseph W. bourke
July 3, 2013 at 12:39 pmRight on the money, Andrew! That’s why a lot of the industrial video work is going away. Because it’s content-driven, the companies producing it in-house now don’t care, or don’t know, about production values. If you’re just doing a video about installing your software, if the viewer gets it, it doesn’t matter whether it’s served on a silver platter or a paper plate…
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Tony West
July 3, 2013 at 1:48 pm[Andrew Kimery] “I think the ability to put something out is certainly easier, but if you don’t know what you are doing it will most likely fall short of professional.”
Maybe. Each situation is different.
In the past if you didn’t know how to do motion graphics you had to learn or you didn’t have them.
Now you can just drop somebody else’s pre-made motion graphics in your timeline.
Does it look more professional? Most likely.
Here you go, just use one of these many pre made templates. Does it look more polished?
What we deem as”professional” really doesn’t matter if whoever is paying the bill at the end of the day accepts it as such.
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Gary Huff
July 4, 2013 at 3:21 am[tony west] “The kind of work that Tsui Hark does would be an example.”
What kind of work does Tsui Hark do that is explicitly “high end”? Compared to what you would describe as “low end”?
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Gary Huff
July 4, 2013 at 3:25 am[tony west] “Maybe. Each situation is different.”
I don’t see how that applies that a certain situation could allow for polished results when someone isn’t competent. Can you “accidently” stumble upon polish?
[tony west] “In the past if you didn’t know how to do motion graphics you had to learn or you didn’t have them. Now you can just drop somebody else’s pre-made motion graphics in your timeline.”
Yes, you and hundreds of others, so congratulations, unless you’re the first use of that template, your viewer has now recalled something entirely different while viewing…perhaps even from competition.
[tony west] “Does it look more professional? Most likely.”
Only if the entire piece was motion graphics. Then, if you don’t know shooting or editing, everything else that you can’t template in now sticks out. And, of course, there’s the copycat issue I mentioned above.
[tony west] “What we deem as”professional” really doesn’t matter if whoever is paying the bill at the end of the day accepts it as such.”
I would agree with that, but is it an excuse? “Well, I don’t need to learn motion graphics, or even how to significantly tweak these templates because the work I do is good enough.”
I hope so. That gives me less competition.
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