Progress!

[Jeremy Garchow]

That is no way compares to this. Sorry. this is gold, don’t kill my vibe:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTQbiNvZqaY

😉

Honestly, though, I don’t get your point. A couple of musicians with some talent, a few mics, and acoustic guitars is new school all of a sudden?

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[Oliver Peters]

Nice piece. I get your point. A nice acoustic cover hardly makes a good example of that point, since they didn’t actually replicate the original result.

– Oliver

Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
http://www.oliverpeters.com

[Jim Giberti]

Aside from the fact that the singer has a nice voice, the overall performance is as average as bar musicians get, horrible acoustic tone, no bass tone to speak of and no serious playing chops.

Yeah, I’m a singer, player, producer, but like most of us I spent years performing. I know a lot of guys playing similar small venues that could cop the original sound with the same minimal setup.

I get your basic point, but this is hardly an exemplary example of what two or three musicians can do with todays technology.

What I can say is that when I was producing music for TV and radio twenty years ago, I needed a very big studio, with miles of cabling and racks and racks of very expensive gear. Today my home studio consists of a 27″ iMac, and a Focusrite input device. Everything else exists within Digital Performer or other supporting applications and plug-ins.

The only thing that’s the same from the “old days” are the guitars surrounding me, my baby grand/midi keyboard, and a pair of Neumann microphones.

It’s almost identical to how my TV/film studio has evolved since then, except my input devices – cameras – unlike musical instruments and mics, continue to change as quickly as the surrounding studio gear.

[Mark Dobson]

What a caterwauling racket!

Or as Miles Davis said ” Don’t play what’s there, play what’s not there”

[Bill Davis]

If your standard is “replication” then nope.

But what if your standard is “access to satisfying entertainment at an affordable price.”

I literally cannot go see Toto do this live. And if I could, it would likely cost me far upwards of $100 per ticket if I could even get access to them. (actually, from what I know about the god awful state of the ticket industry these days there’s actually almost no way I could get a decent ticket to a Toto reunion show unless I held the “proper” colored credit card and/or had inside connections. Supply and demand has kinda ruined the concert industry for all but those with major disposable incomes in the modern world – but that’s a discussion for another day.)

If I’d wandered into that Pizza joint, it looks like I would have had free access to a wonderfully entertaining experience that embodies a HUGE and satisfying helping of the original work – for the price of a pizza.

And sorry, but that those guys even COULD create a “sound” that aligns that well to a record that took huge investment of time and expertise to originally create is pretty amazing.

My hope is that it means that guys like these will develop enough of a following so that they can try to do something original with their talents. Or maybe not. Maybe they’re just doing it out of LOVE for the music and the internal satisfaction of doing something they love – really well.

The important thing in my mind isn’t how it compares to the original – it’s how valuable the work is on it’s own. And I think these guys did VERY valuable work – and I’m delighted to be living in a connected era where there’s finally an accessible infrastructure in place so that there’s a way I can enjoy a couple of guys in a pizza joint in Utah KILLING a cover of a song I love.

Nothing else really matters.

Art and effort has new ways to find an audience. Good.

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[Gary Huff]

[Bill Davis] “But what if your standard is “access to satisfying entertainment at an affordable price.””

Then you have poor standards.

[Bill Davis]

[Mark Dobson] “What a caterwauling racket!”

Proudly said by parents about the music that makes people other than them happy – for the past 1000 years.

And still going strong today, I see.

Now lets debate whether Miles was more accomplished at using musical “space” than Schoenberg, Messien or Eric Satie. Shall we?

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[Rafael Amador]

[Bill Davis] “when people who’ve been schooled in the traditions, adopt the newer simpler modes of expression, embrace technology that drives complexity OUT of creation – and use a combination of new and old tools to create excellent work.”
“Newer and simpler”: You are not thinking about FCPX, don’t you?
Imagine that to play an electric guitar or a synthesizer you have to forget all what you knew about acoustic guitar or piano: That’s FCPX.
rafael

[Herb Sevush]

I live in Westchester, the northern suburbs of NYC. On any given Wednesday nite I can go to one of a dozen places within ten miles of my house and hear guys of this equivalent talent playing live, not for the cost of a pizza, but with the pizza itself. Why would I want to reduce the beauty of a live performance with a youtube recording?

World class recordings exist to replace the value of “live” when you’re stuck sitting at home. Sitting at home to listen to guys like this only works if one of them is your kid.

Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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nothin’ attached to nothin’
“Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf

[Bill Davis]

[Rafael Amador] “Imagine that to play an electric guitar or a synthesizer you have to forget all what you knew about acoustic guitar or piano: That’s FCPX.”

What an excellent week!

In one thread a guy tells me off saying that I’m wrong because X is nothing special since it’s “really no different than any other NLE”

And in another one, a guy tells me that I’m wrong because with X, one must “forget all that you knew” in order to use it

Consistency is a cruel mistress, huh.

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